Message from @Onyxdood

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2018-09-10 02:51:56 UTC  

seems reasonable

2018-09-10 02:52:25 UTC  

The modern left is very good at pulling your heart strings.

2018-09-10 02:53:01 UTC  

Why going through the free market of ideas when you can appeal to emotions?

2018-09-10 02:53:24 UTC  

Its faster and grants the desired effect quicker.

2018-09-10 02:54:07 UTC  

@Onyxdood Have you read 'Art of the Argument' from Molyneux?

2018-09-10 02:54:10 UTC  

I don't buy into the whole "When they're drunk, it is *never* the victims fault" thing

2018-09-10 02:54:13 UTC  

like

2018-09-10 02:54:23 UTC  
2018-09-10 02:54:31 UTC  

if you go get blackout drunk alone with a guy who has a reputation for that sort of thing

2018-09-10 02:54:40 UTC  

and everyone said "don't do it, something bad will happen"

2018-09-10 02:54:43 UTC  

that's on you

2018-09-10 02:54:53 UTC  

@Onyxdood It's pretty much entirely about that. The modern fight between reason, and sophistry

2018-09-10 02:54:58 UTC  

that's like leaving your car doors unlocked in a bad neighborhood and then complaining when stuff gets stolen

2018-09-10 02:55:03 UTC  

I have very little sympathy

2018-09-10 02:57:19 UTC  

@Antiboom I don't view it as so. It takes 2 to tango, so to speak. Its not anyones fault at that point imo.
@Fitzydog I would love to pick up that book tbh.

2018-09-10 02:57:28 UTC  

**Charlemagne#7861** was cleansed from the server.

2018-09-10 02:57:53 UTC  

@Onyxdood at that point I'd consider it both peoples fault

2018-09-10 02:58:17 UTC  

one of them commited it

2018-09-10 02:58:28 UTC  

and the other one put themselves in a position where they knew it was likely to happen

2018-09-10 02:58:53 UTC  

I understand the reason.

2018-09-10 03:01:05 UTC  

If I may ask what is everyone's political leanings? I myself am a minarchist (borderline ancap).

2018-09-10 03:01:29 UTC  

I'm in your boat. Used to be an AnCap, but I like borders too much lol

2018-09-10 03:01:36 UTC  

Lol

2018-09-10 03:01:38 UTC  

I like to think of myself as a social libertarian

2018-09-10 03:01:46 UTC  

but economic more conservative leaning

2018-09-10 03:02:12 UTC  

although I feel like I shouldn't form opinions on stuff I haven't spent a lot of time looking into

2018-09-10 03:02:18 UTC  

so for the most part I have little opinion

2018-09-10 03:02:28 UTC  

Fair enough

2018-09-10 03:03:34 UTC  

@Fitzydog I figured you may of been a ancap once you mentioned Stefan Molyneux

2018-09-10 03:04:34 UTC  

Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the sentiment and the logical consistency, but it presupposes that the rest of the world operates on similar axioms to yourself

2018-09-10 03:05:34 UTC  

*Logical Consistency* as it ignores the human nature.

2018-09-10 03:05:46 UTC  

Ideally it does not matter what the rest of the world thinks.

2018-09-10 03:06:14 UTC  

A AnCap society only needs to town or city to operate.

2018-09-10 03:06:16 UTC  

@Goblin_Slayer_Floki But dis-similar from socialism, in that the more people who apply it, the more positive society gets.

2018-09-10 03:06:45 UTC  

You can't complain about *too many* people who mind their own business and don't impede on your own

2018-09-10 03:06:47 UTC  

@Onyxdood wrong, as without the rest of the world agreeing, it would last seconds

2018-09-10 03:07:06 UTC  

Either due to internal, or external threats

2018-09-10 03:07:32 UTC  

@Goblin_Slayer_Floki im not sure I follow

2018-09-10 03:07:33 UTC  

As again, it ignores human nature to want more, be it land/power/prestige, ect.

2018-09-10 03:08:00 UTC  

@Goblin_Slayer_Floki No, it takes that perfectly into account. It ignores people who *don't* do that, like radical islam

2018-09-10 03:08:04 UTC  

Ancapianism is based on the need that all agree 100% to the 'Non-Agreession'