Message from @Onyxdood

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2018-09-10 02:40:10 UTC  

one of these is not like the others

2018-09-10 02:47:53 UTC  

also

2018-09-10 02:48:05 UTC  

I just realized we call sexual assault survivors "survivors"

2018-09-10 02:48:06 UTC  

like

2018-09-10 02:48:12 UTC  

were they expected to die from it?

2018-09-10 02:48:26 UTC  

can I say that I'm a survivor of eating a moldy scone?

2018-09-10 02:48:36 UTC  

No

2018-09-10 02:49:12 UTC  

I suppose the saying goes: "Context matters man"

2018-09-10 02:49:36 UTC  

true

2018-09-10 02:49:42 UTC  

like yes

2018-09-10 02:49:46 UTC  

they had to live through it

2018-09-10 02:49:59 UTC  

but survivor sounds like the default expectation is death

2018-09-10 02:50:11 UTC  

I suppose it's the best word we have for it

2018-09-10 02:50:33 UTC  

The survivor in of itself invokes sympathy and emotion.

2018-09-10 02:51:00 UTC  

For this reason I submit that this is why they say "survivor".

2018-09-10 02:51:29 UTC  

so you think it's also a rhetoric thing?

2018-09-10 02:51:49 UTC  

I would say yes.

2018-09-10 02:51:56 UTC  

seems reasonable

2018-09-10 02:52:25 UTC  

The modern left is very good at pulling your heart strings.

2018-09-10 02:53:01 UTC  

Why going through the free market of ideas when you can appeal to emotions?

2018-09-10 02:53:24 UTC  

Its faster and grants the desired effect quicker.

2018-09-10 02:54:07 UTC  

@Onyxdood Have you read 'Art of the Argument' from Molyneux?

2018-09-10 02:54:10 UTC  

I don't buy into the whole "When they're drunk, it is *never* the victims fault" thing

2018-09-10 02:54:13 UTC  

like

2018-09-10 02:54:23 UTC  
2018-09-10 02:54:31 UTC  

if you go get blackout drunk alone with a guy who has a reputation for that sort of thing

2018-09-10 02:54:40 UTC  

and everyone said "don't do it, something bad will happen"

2018-09-10 02:54:43 UTC  

that's on you

2018-09-10 02:54:53 UTC  

@Onyxdood It's pretty much entirely about that. The modern fight between reason, and sophistry

2018-09-10 02:54:58 UTC  

that's like leaving your car doors unlocked in a bad neighborhood and then complaining when stuff gets stolen

2018-09-10 02:55:03 UTC  

I have very little sympathy

2018-09-10 02:57:19 UTC  

@Antiboom I don't view it as so. It takes 2 to tango, so to speak. Its not anyones fault at that point imo.
@Fitzydog I would love to pick up that book tbh.

2018-09-10 02:57:28 UTC  

**Charlemagne#7861** was cleansed from the server.

2018-09-10 02:57:53 UTC  

@Onyxdood at that point I'd consider it both peoples fault

2018-09-10 02:58:17 UTC  

one of them commited it

2018-09-10 02:58:28 UTC  

and the other one put themselves in a position where they knew it was likely to happen

2018-09-10 02:58:53 UTC  

I understand the reason.

2018-09-10 03:01:05 UTC  

If I may ask what is everyone's political leanings? I myself am a minarchist (borderline ancap).

2018-09-10 03:01:29 UTC  

I'm in your boat. Used to be an AnCap, but I like borders too much lol

2018-09-10 03:01:36 UTC  

Lol

2018-09-10 03:01:38 UTC  

I like to think of myself as a social libertarian