@Szayel's Pooppion romantic love leads to reproduction.

As you get closer to each other, your body gets in heats and everything comes natural as an experience of love and great intimacy.

Morally is done only in marriage.

Lust is seeking the flesh. Love is seeking the mind, heart, spirit.

@Path oh cool so you make that distinction. That’s what I think too then.

Beautifully put

"Romantic love" is still describing lust. If you just wanted someone to agree with what you already think, don't ask silly questions.

There’s a distinction. You don’t marry someone for the lust but bc you love them. And as he said, the sex comes about naturally rather than an unnatural feeling of lust, bc those are thoughts, so Satan

I don’t think anybody was asking questions tho

No you marry them because you want to make children and God brings you together. As a Christian you're supposed to love all people equally. You keep confusing "love" with lust.

Right, I know that. The only reason for marriage is to have children, but you have to love them in order to marry them. And you have to have that love which causes you to come together in that way, not lust. That's why even men and women of god are still in a fallen state, it's so they can feel compelled to come together and do that. Bc exactly like Jesse says, if you're truly not in the fallen state, you won't have the need to get married at all, bc you will be unable to feel the desire for sex. All enlightened individuals are like this. Getting married to someone, and coming together out of love, is a higher form of "passion" bc those who are truly in the fallen state only come together out of lust

^ this here is why you don't argue with a woman. They don't listen and have zero sense.

lol I'm actually quoting Jesse but okay

You'll learn your place one day... till then, suffer and die!

That's what the other guy said too, and Jesse has said this, and since Jesse is enlightened, that's exactly why he's said this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oo0d1zTAFKA

@salazam she is right, man.

Lust is reducing the human to body parts and craving them to receive pleasures of the flesh. It is a very egocentric affection. You can compare it with gluttony. For example, looking at a dog and craving its legs, hips, etc imagining how good they will taste if you could just have them and cook them right.

Romantic Love is of the heart, mind, spirit. It is a supernatural, so to say, experience. And sex comes naturally as a form of greater union, (morally only in the sanctity and protection of marriage).

Love is of two kinds: Platonic love (how you love your mom, dad, dog, God, friends, sisters) and Romantic love (how you love your husband/wife, has dating, kissing, holding hands,etc)

And in regard of women, the natural order is about co-existing in balance. Is not about seeing women as being less than men. Women are a blessing. Don't look down on them. Lead, but lead with righteousness and love.

Isn't that what Jesse always says? The man must love his wife as Jesus loves His church. And a man must be righteous.

Wrong. I hope you aren't a man, with that laundry list of excuses for being a BETAAAAA!!

Also, suggesting Jesus fornicates with the church is just plain sacrilegious and uncalled for. You both disgust me with your lust for carnal sins.

What are your views?

That it's still possible to have sex outside a fallen state under the sanctimony of marriage. That it's just like eating when you're already full. You have no appetite but you know you gotta clean your plate.

Also that you cannot lead someone who is equal to you. I'm the president, she's the vice president. Anyone who argues otherwise is cucked beyond belief.

"co-existing in balance" honestly disgusting.

God>Jesus>Man>Woman>Rugrats. Period.

God over christ, christ over man, man over woman, and woman over children

I'm always talking about that order

Women are not equal to men

nobody was suggesting that

as christians though, a husband treats his wife fairly

It's not possible to have sex outside a fallen state. That's what I said, which is what Jesse says as well. You have to be in a fallen state to desire it, whether it be from lust or the love you have for your husband or wife.

Maybe you should hear what Jesse says on that more, bc he literally says if you were not in the fallen state, it's impossible to get married bc you have no desire for love or sex.

Ever notice when women speak, not a word makes sense? It's just all emotion and contradictions. Must be that time of the month...

@salazam I want to remind you something. Before thinking about being the head of the woman, remember that Jesus must be your head (leader).

Don't worry about the speck of dust from your neighbor's eye (the woman being this and that) when you have a javelin in your eye (you do not obey God). That is arrogance.

ditto. Glass houses my nigga

And Jesus has said! And listen to His words! Anyone who looks at a woman lustfully, committed adultery in his heart.