Yeah I think it is best to let the states decide

yeah, Alabama and Georgia didn't pass those laws in a vacuum, they elected extremely conservative leaders and they are following their ideals and promises

I'm curious what the actual in-state popularity of those laws are

Yeah I don't know. I hope this makes its way to the supreme Court and I hope they reexamine roe v wade. I know they are always reluctant to touch that one but I would like to see if the modern justices agree with the reasoning of the decision.

well the current Supreme Court is rather conservative itself

which is why people are worried Roe vs Wade will be overturned

it was one of the main points being discussed about Kavannaugh getting his seat

but it doesn't really matter

if Roe vs Wade is overturned you'll just a slew of more liberal states passing laws protecting abortion

Federal Law is becoming less and less important

Right but roe.v Wade is what prevents laws at the state level from being enforceable.

If it was overturned it wouldn't ban abortion outright. It would be up to the states.

Unless a law was passed on the federal level banning it, which states would likely ignore the way they do marijuana and immigration laws.

I just feel like the reasoning about abortion rights being a privacy issue is a stretch.

Personally I am glad that the supreme court has more conservative justices now.

I feel like it was liberal controlled for too long. In fact much of the judicial branch is liberal.

thats interesting, because I hear the opposite, but I live in one of the most liberal areas of the country so it might just be a factor of degrees

From my perspective, the courts are always quick to overstep their bounds and issue injunctions against the executive branch when a conservative contorls it.

For instance all of the immigration stuff Trump has tried to enforce. There is always some judge in Hawaii or something that stays he can't do it.

well thats because Hawai'i is the most liberal state of the Union

they have the longest history of voting 'blue' out of any state

but yeah, I get your point

Personally I feel like the judicial branch has it's nose to deep in to the executive branches business. In my eyes it would be like Trump going in to a court and declaring a judges verdict invalid

He executive branch isn't supposed to have to seek permission from the courts for everythinng they do.

And you just hit the nail on the head. Hawaii is blue so the judges out there rule against the conservative president. And that's the problem. Judges are supposed to interpret the law, not legislate form the bench.

well its more what I was talking about the decline in power of the Federal Government, states are quite literally ignoring Federal decisions and just doing their own thing

anyway I gotta go to dinner 😃 be well

Have a good dinner

How was the day @Uberduperdrew ?

It was alright. I didn't over sleep so that was good. Met the cable vendor at work..they pulled a new cable. I was able to finish installing the network for the new office area my team is moving in to. Overall made good progress today.

Excellent.

I know you said you had to be in early.

Ah, a fellow network engineer!

Damn, just read all that about federal vs state. US politics sounds like a mess

Yeah it can be a mess.

The thing to keep in mind is that initially the union was meant to be for defense mostly.

Yep, the principles were to allow states to have a lot of discretion in enacting laws.

We need posters like this one https://v.redd.it/qf4s929hac031

What happened to the posters thing anyway? Is that idea abandoned now ?

https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1132035093294342145?s=19

That movie was so bad. They deleted tens of thousands of negative user reviews and it's still rated as rotten on rotten tomatoes.