Message from @Maxthx

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2019-05-25 01:28:23 UTC  

Thanks Drew

2019-05-25 01:59:50 UTC  

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

2019-05-25 02:21:43 UTC  

Yes I love how people always invoke the Constitution

2019-05-25 02:22:37 UTC  

They say something or point out something that has nothing to do with the Constitution then cute that as evidence of something being unconstitutional.

2019-05-25 02:24:22 UTC  

Yeah, real legal experts.

2019-05-25 02:28:46 UTC  

state law is starting to supersede federal law across the board

2019-05-25 02:28:58 UTC  

in many ways it has for decades

2019-05-25 02:30:10 UTC  

a great example is Marijuana

2019-05-25 02:30:17 UTC  

which is still federally illegal

2019-05-25 02:31:11 UTC  

or a more apt comparison is alcohol regulation, states have differing laws about the sale and usage and alcohol, and have for decades

2019-05-25 02:31:47 UTC  

but you don't see people protesting that Utah doesn't allow the sale of hard alcohol

2019-05-25 02:32:22 UTC  

well you do but... not with outrage

2019-05-25 02:50:51 UTC  

Yeah I think it is best to let the states decide

2019-05-25 02:55:54 UTC  

yeah, Alabama and Georgia didn't pass those laws in a vacuum, they elected extremely conservative leaders and they are following their ideals and promises

2019-05-25 02:56:07 UTC  

I'm curious what the actual in-state popularity of those laws are

2019-05-25 02:57:22 UTC  

Yeah I don't know. I hope this makes its way to the supreme Court and I hope they reexamine roe v wade. I know they are always reluctant to touch that one but I would like to see if the modern justices agree with the reasoning of the decision.

2019-05-25 02:58:29 UTC  

well the current Supreme Court is rather conservative itself

2019-05-25 02:58:43 UTC  

which is why people are worried Roe vs Wade will be overturned

2019-05-25 02:59:14 UTC  

it was one of the main points being discussed about Kavannaugh getting his seat

2019-05-25 02:59:38 UTC  

but it doesn't really matter

2019-05-25 03:00:01 UTC  

if Roe vs Wade is overturned you'll just a slew of more liberal states passing laws protecting abortion

2019-05-25 03:00:20 UTC  

Federal Law is becoming less and less important

2019-05-25 03:03:00 UTC  

Right but roe.v Wade is what prevents laws at the state level from being enforceable.

2019-05-25 03:03:15 UTC  

If it was overturned it wouldn't ban abortion outright. It would be up to the states.

2019-05-25 03:03:52 UTC  

Unless a law was passed on the federal level banning it, which states would likely ignore the way they do marijuana and immigration laws.

2019-05-25 03:04:38 UTC  

I just feel like the reasoning about abortion rights being a privacy issue is a stretch.

2019-05-25 03:05:21 UTC  

Personally I am glad that the supreme court has more conservative justices now.

2019-05-25 03:05:51 UTC  

I feel like it was liberal controlled for too long. In fact much of the judicial branch is liberal.

2019-05-25 03:06:52 UTC  

thats interesting, because I hear the opposite, but I live in one of the most liberal areas of the country so it might just be a factor of degrees

2019-05-25 03:09:20 UTC  

From my perspective, the courts are always quick to overstep their bounds and issue injunctions against the executive branch when a conservative contorls it.

2019-05-25 03:10:28 UTC  

For instance all of the immigration stuff Trump has tried to enforce. There is always some judge in Hawaii or something that stays he can't do it.

2019-05-25 03:11:10 UTC  

well thats because Hawai'i is the most liberal state of the Union

2019-05-25 03:11:25 UTC  

they have the longest history of voting 'blue' out of any state

2019-05-25 03:11:38 UTC  

but yeah, I get your point

2019-05-25 03:11:39 UTC  

Personally I feel like the judicial branch has it's nose to deep in to the executive branches business. In my eyes it would be like Trump going in to a court and declaring a judges verdict invalid

2019-05-25 03:12:43 UTC  

He executive branch isn't supposed to have to seek permission from the courts for everythinng they do.

2019-05-25 03:13:46 UTC  

And you just hit the nail on the head. Hawaii is blue so the judges out there rule against the conservative president. And that's the problem. Judges are supposed to interpret the law, not legislate form the bench.

2019-05-25 03:14:34 UTC  

well its more what I was talking about the decline in power of the Federal Government, states are quite literally ignoring Federal decisions and just doing their own thing

2019-05-25 03:15:06 UTC  

anyway I gotta go to dinner 😃 be well

2019-05-25 03:15:28 UTC  

Have a good dinner