Message from @Maw

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2021-01-17 05:06:13 UTC  

what?

2021-01-17 05:06:43 UTC  

Laws is the reason... I mean I don't know how else to put it.

Are you not a proponent of State's Rights?

2021-01-17 05:06:53 UTC  

Indeed imagine for a moment if the first amendment was something the states had full power over.

2021-01-17 05:07:43 UTC  

I like states rights when they aren't inherently what we deem unalienable rights of citizens.

2021-01-17 05:08:52 UTC  

States can't pass law that is above the bill of rights yet they do.

2021-01-17 05:09:21 UTC  

laws laws laws

2021-01-17 05:09:32 UTC  

Yeppers... totally agree and so did the Court. I personally think the Court was right and as the Amendments were written especially when looking at the entire document the first 10 Amendment simply did not apply to the States.

They really really WANTED to start making sure that the States did not go all crazy nazi (before nazis existed) and protect the people a bit more

2021-01-17 05:11:10 UTC  

Well that is a matter of opinion.... It is true that the Federal Constitution is the floor as to rights so a State can give you MORE freedom than does the US Constitution but they can't take them away.

I just don't know of any laws that currently exist in any states that does away with any US Constitutional rights.

2021-01-17 05:11:34 UTC  

Citizens United was a Stupid decision. We can agree on that

2021-01-17 05:11:58 UTC  

what are you serious @JD~Jordan are you like bat shit crazy please explain again what you are trying to say with that!!! the 10th and all!!!

2021-01-17 05:12:03 UTC  

Its easily one of the worst decisions ever

2021-01-17 05:12:23 UTC  

No ad hominem attacks please.

2021-01-17 05:12:45 UTC  

I am saying that I do not know of any State law that is currently being enforced that violates the US Constitution.

2021-01-17 05:13:17 UTC  

Yes, the 10th does explicitly say "powers that are not limited by the constitution are the rights of the states."

2021-01-17 05:14:16 UTC  

Yeppers.... so the 9th and 10th Amendments still only apply to the Federal Government.

2021-01-17 05:14:29 UTC  

yep there are a few... how bout illinois foid card?

2021-01-17 05:14:55 UTC  

Eh? It literally suggests they intended to limit state power as well with the constitution, hence specifically saying 'as long as they're in line with the constitution'

2021-01-17 05:14:56 UTC  

I don't think it violates anything in the Constitution

2021-01-17 05:15:41 UTC  

Im not sure what you are asking. As of right now only 1 thru 8 apply (as to the bill of rights) to the states

2021-01-17 05:15:59 UTC  

The 10th is literally about states rights.

2021-01-17 05:16:58 UTC  

The powers not delegated to the United States by **the Constitution**, nor **prohibited by it** to **the States**, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

2021-01-17 05:17:01 UTC  

Well yes... the 9th and the 10th do nothing to restrict the States

2021-01-17 05:18:01 UTC  

it taxes or goes with a fee I don't know but I don't live there but does that not violate the 2a?

2021-01-17 05:18:01 UTC  

@Kaptain Tailhook, you just advanced to level 8!

2021-01-17 05:19:02 UTC  

No... I can't see how

2021-01-17 05:20:28 UTC  

Shall no be infringed???? is that not a problem I need a GD Card to get my Fing right do you not see a problem with that?

2021-01-17 05:22:50 UTC  

The 10th actually is a perfect example of the constitution's meaning that was to imply limitations on state's rights from the prior amendments.

2021-01-17 05:23:23 UTC  

"Any powers not restricted by the constitution in reference to the states, are hereby delegated to the states."

2021-01-17 05:24:01 UTC  

Look... I am likely the wrong guy on that. I do not personally think that the 2nd Amendment gives you a Constitutional right to own a gun except as it would be required to preserve a well regulated militia. This is what the SCOTUS initially ruled... unless the gun was required to maintain a well regulated militia then no Constitutional right existed in regards to that gun.

Having said that... just because you dont have a Constitutionally protected right does not mean you can't still possess a gun.

2021-01-17 05:24:27 UTC  

If SCOTUS had some balls most the the government would sease to exist.

2021-01-17 05:24:48 UTC  

reg the 10th

2021-01-17 05:25:10 UTC  

Ok... I see.... I should clear up my language a bit. When I said doesn't apply to the States... I should have said it doesnt "restrict" the States

2021-01-17 05:25:28 UTC  

It literally says it restricts state's rights in the amendment.

2021-01-17 05:25:51 UTC  

Um no

2021-01-17 05:25:57 UTC  

"nor prohibited by the constitution to the states"

2021-01-17 05:25:58 UTC  

yes.

2021-01-17 05:25:59 UTC  

It does. lol

2021-01-17 05:26:00 UTC  

reserved

2021-01-17 05:26:28 UTC  

You are not reading it correctly... Its giving states rights... not restricting their ability

2021-01-17 05:26:37 UTC  

It's a clause.

2021-01-17 05:26:42 UTC  

"Except these things."