Message from @Maw
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what?
Laws is the reason... I mean I don't know how else to put it.
Are you not a proponent of State's Rights?
Indeed imagine for a moment if the first amendment was something the states had full power over.
I like states rights when they aren't inherently what we deem unalienable rights of citizens.
States can't pass law that is above the bill of rights yet they do.
laws laws laws
Yeppers... totally agree and so did the Court. I personally think the Court was right and as the Amendments were written especially when looking at the entire document the first 10 Amendment simply did not apply to the States.
They really really WANTED to start making sure that the States did not go all crazy nazi (before nazis existed) and protect the people a bit more
Well that is a matter of opinion.... It is true that the Federal Constitution is the floor as to rights so a State can give you MORE freedom than does the US Constitution but they can't take them away.
I just don't know of any laws that currently exist in any states that does away with any US Constitutional rights.
Citizens United was a Stupid decision. We can agree on that
what are you serious @JD~Jordan are you like bat shit crazy please explain again what you are trying to say with that!!! the 10th and all!!!
Its easily one of the worst decisions ever
No ad hominem attacks please.
I am saying that I do not know of any State law that is currently being enforced that violates the US Constitution.
Yes, the 10th does explicitly say "powers that are not limited by the constitution are the rights of the states."
Yeppers.... so the 9th and 10th Amendments still only apply to the Federal Government.
yep there are a few... how bout illinois foid card?
Eh? It literally suggests they intended to limit state power as well with the constitution, hence specifically saying 'as long as they're in line with the constitution'
I don't think it violates anything in the Constitution
Im not sure what you are asking. As of right now only 1 thru 8 apply (as to the bill of rights) to the states
The 10th is literally about states rights.
The powers not delegated to the United States by **the Constitution**, nor **prohibited by it** to **the States**, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
Well yes... the 9th and the 10th do nothing to restrict the States
it taxes or goes with a fee I don't know but I don't live there but does that not violate the 2a?
@Kaptain Tailhook, you just advanced to level 8!
No... I can't see how
Shall no be infringed???? is that not a problem I need a GD Card to get my Fing right do you not see a problem with that?
The 10th actually is a perfect example of the constitution's meaning that was to imply limitations on state's rights from the prior amendments.
"Any powers not restricted by the constitution in reference to the states, are hereby delegated to the states."
Look... I am likely the wrong guy on that. I do not personally think that the 2nd Amendment gives you a Constitutional right to own a gun except as it would be required to preserve a well regulated militia. This is what the SCOTUS initially ruled... unless the gun was required to maintain a well regulated militia then no Constitutional right existed in regards to that gun.
Having said that... just because you dont have a Constitutionally protected right does not mean you can't still possess a gun.
If SCOTUS had some balls most the the government would sease to exist.
reg the 10th
Ok... I see.... I should clear up my language a bit. When I said doesn't apply to the States... I should have said it doesnt "restrict" the States
It literally says it restricts state's rights in the amendment.
Um no
"nor prohibited by the constitution to the states"
yes.
It does. lol
reserved
You are not reading it correctly... Its giving states rights... not restricting their ability
It's a clause.
"Except these things."