Message from @Maw

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2021-01-17 05:14:16 UTC  

Yeppers.... so the 9th and 10th Amendments still only apply to the Federal Government.

2021-01-17 05:14:29 UTC  

yep there are a few... how bout illinois foid card?

2021-01-17 05:14:55 UTC  

Eh? It literally suggests they intended to limit state power as well with the constitution, hence specifically saying 'as long as they're in line with the constitution'

2021-01-17 05:14:56 UTC  

I don't think it violates anything in the Constitution

2021-01-17 05:15:41 UTC  

Im not sure what you are asking. As of right now only 1 thru 8 apply (as to the bill of rights) to the states

2021-01-17 05:15:59 UTC  

The 10th is literally about states rights.

2021-01-17 05:16:58 UTC  

The powers not delegated to the United States by **the Constitution**, nor **prohibited by it** to **the States**, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

2021-01-17 05:17:01 UTC  

Well yes... the 9th and the 10th do nothing to restrict the States

2021-01-17 05:18:01 UTC  

it taxes or goes with a fee I don't know but I don't live there but does that not violate the 2a?

2021-01-17 05:18:01 UTC  

@Kaptain Tailhook, you just advanced to level 8!

2021-01-17 05:19:02 UTC  

No... I can't see how

2021-01-17 05:20:28 UTC  

Shall no be infringed???? is that not a problem I need a GD Card to get my Fing right do you not see a problem with that?

2021-01-17 05:22:50 UTC  

The 10th actually is a perfect example of the constitution's meaning that was to imply limitations on state's rights from the prior amendments.

2021-01-17 05:23:23 UTC  

"Any powers not restricted by the constitution in reference to the states, are hereby delegated to the states."

2021-01-17 05:24:01 UTC  

Look... I am likely the wrong guy on that. I do not personally think that the 2nd Amendment gives you a Constitutional right to own a gun except as it would be required to preserve a well regulated militia. This is what the SCOTUS initially ruled... unless the gun was required to maintain a well regulated militia then no Constitutional right existed in regards to that gun.

Having said that... just because you dont have a Constitutionally protected right does not mean you can't still possess a gun.

2021-01-17 05:24:27 UTC  

If SCOTUS had some balls most the the government would sease to exist.

2021-01-17 05:24:48 UTC  

reg the 10th

2021-01-17 05:25:10 UTC  

Ok... I see.... I should clear up my language a bit. When I said doesn't apply to the States... I should have said it doesnt "restrict" the States

2021-01-17 05:25:28 UTC  

It literally says it restricts state's rights in the amendment.

2021-01-17 05:25:51 UTC  

Um no

2021-01-17 05:25:57 UTC  

"nor prohibited by the constitution to the states"

2021-01-17 05:25:58 UTC  

yes.

2021-01-17 05:25:59 UTC  

It does. lol

2021-01-17 05:26:00 UTC  

reserved

2021-01-17 05:26:28 UTC  

You are not reading it correctly... Its giving states rights... not restricting their ability

2021-01-17 05:26:37 UTC  

It's a clause.

2021-01-17 05:26:42 UTC  

"Except these things."

2021-01-17 05:27:26 UTC  

"Anything not in violation of these things, is their respective powers."

2021-01-17 05:28:16 UTC  

I don't understand why we are having this back and forth here.... the 10th Amendment only restricts the Fed Government

2021-01-17 05:28:28 UTC  

Anything not prohibited by the Constitution is delegated to the states. So a state cannot force you to house the national guard anymore than the federal government can force you to house the army.

2021-01-17 05:28:32 UTC  

States have powers not rights.
That was drilled in school back in the day.

2021-01-17 05:28:45 UTC  

its basically a catch all... unless specifically mentioned elses where any rights belong to the people and or the states

2021-01-17 05:28:56 UTC  

No.

2021-01-17 05:29:03 UTC  

It prevents the Federal Government from reaching

2021-01-17 05:29:05 UTC  

um yes

2021-01-17 05:29:54 UTC  

Left to the states or the people.

2021-01-17 05:30:22 UTC  

the whole purpose of the 10th Amendment was to clamp down on what the Federal Government could do... its there to protect state rights

2021-01-17 05:30:46 UTC  

it doesnt specifically limit a state right... it limits the federal government from infringing on state rights

2021-01-17 05:30:58 UTC  

@Maw
the Tenth Amendment was inserted into the Constitution largely to relieve tension and to assuage the fears of states’ rights advocates, who believed that the newly adopted Constitution would enable the federal government to run roughshod over the states and their citizens. While the Federalists, who advocated a strong central government, had in that respect prevailed with the ratification of the Constitution, it was essential to the integrity of the document and to the stability of the fledgling country to acknowledge the interests of the Anti-Federalists, such as Patrick Henry, who had unsuccessfully opposed the strong central government created by the Constitution.

2021-01-17 05:31:23 UTC  

```“not delegated to the United States, nor prohibited to the States, are reserved to the States or to the people,”```

2021-01-17 05:31:43 UTC  

Yes... I know what it says.... I teach it