Message from @Maw
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actually, if you drive the car that really depends on the circumstances... you can ask robert. Was murder before or after? did they stop for a burrito before driving further? etc etc
@Eden, you just advanced to level 13!
yes, that does work that way, because of the circumstances
The person you're arguing against -- the quote I gave, is literally a legal expert themselves. I guarantee you that Robert will agree.
I'll bring it up to him tomorrow if you'd like.
There you go, I never had to write a police report for it. I am absolutely making assumptions. My thought process is that a person at the event but not inside the area to prevent the death shouldn't be charged. But the lawyers have something different... Figures 😜
Thanks @Maw
let me explain.... @Maw
the shootout happened as they walked through the front door with the shootout itself being immediately after. 1)the suspect was a participant in the shootout (you cant say he was too far away, too close, or not part of the roberry 2) there were not superceding event
Definition of Superseding Cause
Noun
An unforeseeable event that interrupts the chain of causation, becoming the actual cause of the accident.
so... now taking this to the each and single rioter... 1) how would you describe participant? and prove that they were in fact beyond a reasonable doubt 2) they will have a perfect defense of there were 20 other people that were superceding causes to the death
""The common purpose may not have been to kill and murder, but if it was unlawful, as, for instance, to break in and steal, and in the execution of this common purpose a homicide is committed by one, as a probable or natural consequence of the acts done in pursuance of the common design, then all present participating in the unlawful common design are as guilty as the slayer.""
SCOTUS ruling.
Ashley Bobbit death has not been even commented on by the DA office yet, and you are already making assumptions on felony murder
agree, and aware of this.....
now, back to REALITY
Officer Sidnick was killed outside the capitol with a fire extinguisher to the head.
We're clearly talking about a mob beating a man to death.
is it on video?
And attempting to beat another officer to death.
And attempting to crush another officer to death.
yes, the person beating him with extinguisher will likely go down with at least Manslaughter, likely Murder 2
Not a released one yet. But I am sure with all the cameras and phones with cameras recording it probably was
... manslaughter... for literally murdering someone with a blunt instrument. Interesting take.
well, when you find that video, and ID that person, then.....
Oh, guarantee you they have.
@maw can I link to a Donut operator video released about this...
This is the capitol building we're talking about, surveillance everywhere.
Not low-tech surveillance neither.
He did not die until later, and was "fine" for several hours. I bet the cause of death would be an epidural hematoma
That image is so... smdh.
oh.... ok, sorry I was not aware of that image
That's not even the officer that died.
That's just one they tried to murder.
Beat him over the back of the head with an American flag.
While he was unconscious.