Message from @AdvanceManExtraordinaire

Discord ID: 798229938176000020


2021-01-11 15:25:34 UTC  

And that helps Twitter

2021-01-11 15:53:45 UTC  

You do know that Twitter has also allowed (and arguably promotes through inaction) people and posts to incite violence, AND its members give out actual personally identifiable information at the same time, not to mention addresses and other info gained through doxxing? Twitter, Amazon, and Facebook pulling these heinous stunts are only silencing any forms of competition to further solidify their hold on the social media/online service markets. Target competition using the "moral" high ground and the "just cause", while conveniently ignoring the exact same actions happening on you own turf.

2021-01-11 15:55:00 UTC  

Good for you

2021-01-11 16:07:49 UTC  

I have no doubt that there are people on Twitter that do very shitty things all the time. I have also seen Twitter remove people from doing those very shitty things - which is their right.

But.... and I really think that you are glossing over this fact:

The more power a person possess, the higher office they hold and the larger following they have - the more their words matter.

So to equate what you or I say on Twitter with that of the leader of the free world is a bit ridiculous. Of course, the same rules should apply to everyone
BUT...
As Stan Lee has been telling us for years "With great power comes great responsibility."

2021-01-11 16:08:36 UTC  

For the record I do not think that I am morally superior to you or anyone else, for that matter.

However, once we agree on some form of Objective Morality (which is very difficult in and of itself) then we can judge the morality or immorality of certain positions, opinions, policies and actions.

Just because lots of Trumpsters support separation of families at the border and that I do not support it does not necessarily mean that I am morally superior.

But, I do make the argument that my position/opinions on that matter is morally superior to the position of separating families at the border.

We MUST make judgment calls on a daily basis. Many of those choices or judgments have a moral element. But we do need to try to only address the morality of the position, opinion, policy or action and not necessarily the person who holds them.

2021-01-11 16:13:05 UTC  

Not just do, but say. Twitter has an exponential amount of individuals who commit the same actions that go unpunished. To stick to the Stan Lee comment, Twitter has failed to exercise their responsibility to stamp that stuff out with all the power they have gained (and it is ***SUBSTANTIAL*** power). Enough to influence elections even by information suppression. So I do acknowledge that high profile, high power, high visibility people are given greater weight in their words and actions, but also like you said, the standards should apply to everyone. What we are seeing now is a biased and uneven application of said standards directly due to those who hold such powerful positions.

To the second reply, I can get behind that thinking. Agree on common ground first then work from there. Tough like you said, but I can support methods along that line of thinking.

2021-01-11 16:17:55 UTC  

So when you are saying that Twitter has banned Trump while ignoring the same type of comments from others.... can you give me some specific examples?

Again, we agree that its rather obvious that Trump's Tweets carry more weight and as such draw more attention. But do you have any examples of similarly situated people who have sent out the same or similar type Tweets as Trump - but received no reprimand?

2021-01-11 16:18:29 UTC  

anyone here a computer tech or knows alot about computers

2021-01-11 16:18:31 UTC  

@Scott McHarris, you just advanced to level 2!

2021-01-11 16:21:08 UTC  

One of the biggest examples would be Kathy Griffin's picture. You can argue it's "art," but not the kind that should be forgiven and/or ignored. I should also mention the Ayatollah of Iran not being perma-banned from Twitter with his blatantly obvious rhetoric directed against anything a reasonable person wouldn't consider as immoral, wrong, or illegal (think his anti-homosexual stances and calls against such). I do not have a Twitter because I believe it would increase the stress in my life but I do pay attention, and those two are the ones I can think of off the top of my head.

2021-01-11 16:23:53 UTC  

There is also the organizing of protests/counter-protests of Antifa, that have turned to violence and/or riots, taking place on Twitter. that's a bit of a weak argument but the past 4 years have shown the MO of that particular group. So when that group and other individuals aren't equally punished as compared to their opposites who are actively punished, then what we got here is a breakdown of standards and a breakdown of the system.

2021-01-11 16:35:41 UTC  

I have Twitter but I primarily use it to get Financial news because it typically gets info out much quicker than a news source that needs to draft an article and verify sources and often by that time I would have missed the move in the market.

Sadly, I have no clue what the Kathy Griffin pic was but will google it shortly.

I also had no idea that the Ayatollah even had a Twitter, lol that kinda shocks me. It does not shock me that he would attack the LGBT community. But, we have developed a pretty thick skin to words - the problem with the Ayatollah is that like Trump his words inspire people to act

2021-01-11 16:36:38 UTC  

so why is the ayatollah allowed but trump not?

2021-01-11 16:37:06 UTC  

if rules arent enforced equally they are not rules but weapons

2021-01-11 16:39:07 UTC  

Not as bad as Trump. Call me when the ayatollah is flying the flag of US enemies inside the capital

2021-01-11 16:39:36 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/772982351520333824/798229640811773952/image0.png

2021-01-11 16:39:39 UTC  

lol 😂

2021-01-11 16:39:48 UTC  

trump is worse than the ayatollah lmfao

2021-01-11 16:40:18 UTC  

The ayatollah isn’t responsible for thousands of dead Americans every day

2021-01-11 16:40:44 UTC  

trump is literally walking around breathing covid into tens of thousands of people a day

2021-01-11 16:40:47 UTC  

Is this... insurrection?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/772982351520333824/798229938015698944/image0.jpg

2021-01-11 16:40:51 UTC  

Sedition?

2021-01-11 16:41:13 UTC  

If it was real

2021-01-11 16:41:44 UTC  

Oh the role of Twitter is to censor people killing Americans, not their own countrymen?

2021-01-11 16:41:57 UTC  

Trumps band of thugs were physically in the nations capital trying to hang mike pence

2021-01-11 16:42:08 UTC  

....

2021-01-11 16:42:15 UTC  

with what ?

2021-01-11 16:42:23 UTC  

the mock gallows?

2021-01-11 16:42:28 UTC  

Well. It’s certainly not art. If it qualifies as art it should qualify as a threat.

2021-01-11 16:42:31 UTC  

😂 I’m sorry this is pure hysteria. Go outside man.

2021-01-11 16:42:53 UTC  

The gallows or nooses they were making in the building or bombs they brought or guns

2021-01-11 16:43:02 UTC  

this is totally gonna hang someone and not fall apart with 5 pounds of weight applied

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/772982351520333824/798230504641396776/unknown.png

2021-01-11 16:43:15 UTC  

its totally not a political statement like the guillotine antifa put outside of bezos house

2021-01-11 16:43:38 UTC  

"OMG ANTIFA LITERALLY TRIEDTO BEHEAD BEZOS"

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/772982351520333824/798230653908287488/unknown.png

2021-01-11 16:44:05 UTC  

They brought a wide variety of methods to do the killing. Complete with spears to mount heads on and a verbal desire to do so

2021-01-11 16:44:16 UTC  

🤣

2021-01-11 16:44:20 UTC  

So... on the Kathy Griffin thing... I do not recall the news story but I never saw the Tweet. But per some articles I just read she was sanctioned by Twitter the post was removed and she even issued a public apology.

So.... You can't really say her tweet was ignored by Twitter because that is simply not accurate.

Someone just posted a 2014 Tweet from the Ayatollah's account that is very clearly one that should have resulted in a ban. I wonder if there are any more recent examples of that??

2021-01-11 16:44:21 UTC  

I totally remember all the pearl clutching meltdowns when that Kathy Griffin pic dropped. Screaming to hang her for literal treason.

2021-01-11 16:44:31 UTC  

those people were equally ridiculous

2021-01-11 16:44:51 UTC  

😆 you should write some fan fiction. Leftists would eat that up. You’d make millions.

2021-01-11 16:44:51 UTC  

she deserved a temporary suspension though