Message from @Supreme leader Potato

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2020-12-02 02:46:53 UTC  

This is something I just found rn

2020-12-02 02:47:08 UTC  

The original evidence I wanted to send I could not find it

2020-12-02 02:48:08 UTC  

Okay, that's fine, I'll take a look at this video then

2020-12-02 02:48:55 UTC  

The original video I wanted to send was saying that there was a chemical that would've changed our DNA

2020-12-02 02:52:03 UTC  

bottom line is i don't feel like getting a vaccine to prevent catching something that does as much damage as pic related

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/678670868439629834/783525865472393247/1602798784625.jpg

2020-12-02 02:52:10 UTC  

same reason why i don't get flu shots

2020-12-02 02:57:59 UTC  

@Kevin_the_wise Before I watch a video, I always like to check the credentials of the uploader - so it was striking to me that "Trader University" is not actually a real university. That's not a good sign. .... However, after actually watching the video, I have to say, it's actually pretty good. He doesn't denounce the vaccine and say it's evil or anything, he merely highlights a few potential health concerns surrounding it, and he even provides sources!

2020-12-02 02:59:22 UTC  

He's absolutely right; mRNA-based vaccines *do* have some health drawbacks, even if there are some greater advantages that come along with it. Ultimately, all he's really saying in the video is that we should "keep an eye out" on the vaccine's testing; which is what scientists are busy doing anyway.

2020-12-02 02:59:49 UTC  

So thanks for the source, but this is still not really a definitive indictment of anything I've said.

2020-12-02 03:43:05 UTC  

If only if I could find that video I found earlier

2020-12-02 03:43:09 UTC  

Feck

2020-12-02 03:43:15 UTC  

Bottom line is

2020-12-02 03:43:28 UTC  

Vaccines are toxic and have bad side effects

2020-12-02 03:43:37 UTC  

I rather take my chances with the virus

2020-12-02 03:44:20 UTC  

I still think "toxic" is a strong word, but overall yeah that's fair. I wouldn't force anyone to get the vaccine if they didn't want to.

2020-12-02 15:08:01 UTC  

The reason I don’t get flu shots is because there are so many different strains of the flu and they keep adapting to the point where the shots are effectively pointless :/

2020-12-02 15:08:11 UTC  

And it’s just the flu

2020-12-02 15:27:53 UTC  

Again though, do these generalizations you're making have any factual basis? Or are you just assuming things?

2020-12-02 16:00:31 UTC  

There are 4 main flu strains and the flu shots are supposed to cover those 4, but there are other flu strains that they group into those 4 due to their similarities even if the flue shots aren’t effective against them.

2020-12-02 16:01:02 UTC  

And even if you get the flu shots they only work 68% of the time for the strains they are effective against

2020-12-02 16:05:10 UTC  

And with each new infection there are minor adaptations that label the flu shots slightly more ineffective. In my opinion it’s not worth spending time or money to get them since they work just about half the time and they aren’t effective against many smaller strains that are grouped in

2020-12-02 16:05:41 UTC  

And it’s just the flu, its not really a threat unless you have a immune disorder or have a health condition

2020-12-02 16:12:20 UTC  

And the shit they put in the vaccines are sometimes more likely to harm you then disease they were meant to stop.

2020-12-02 16:13:05 UTC  

Okay, that's a lot of specific information. I respect that. But are you able to provide a link to an academic source clarifying all of this?

2020-12-02 16:15:36 UTC  

Sorry it took me a bit, the link wouldn’t copy

2020-12-02 16:16:40 UTC  

That's fine - this is a good document, from a reliable resource. It also corroborates what you said

2020-12-02 16:16:49 UTC  

Yeah, there are pros and cons of vaccines for sure

2020-12-02 16:16:53 UTC  

Yeah

2020-12-02 16:17:28 UTC  

While I am for vacations, I don’t feel safe with new ones that are rushed or with ones that we don’t know what the long term effects are.

2020-12-02 16:17:41 UTC  

Like I said, I agree that it should never be some legal requirement for a person to be vaccinated (with certain exceptions for vaccines of more deadly/contagious diseases), I think for the most part it should be up to the individual what they choose to do.

2020-12-02 16:18:04 UTC  

I would prefer to wait at least 15-20 years after a vaccine is out in use to see how effective it is and how safe it is

2020-12-02 16:18:27 UTC  

That makes sense

2020-12-02 16:18:45 UTC  

And I agree completely

2020-12-02 16:21:24 UTC  

It should be up to the people if they want to get curtain vaccinations, unless they have been proven to be safe and are effective against deadly viruses, then I believe they should be required for certain situations like going to public school or getting a job.

2020-12-02 16:25:07 UTC  

My concern is how truly effective will this one be when ones we as humans have had for 40+ years that only work sometimes

2020-12-02 16:29:46 UTC  

My opinion is probably unneeded in yalls convo though lmao it’s along the lines of Potato’s.

2020-12-02 16:30:10 UTC  

But yeah I’m not getting the vaccine for long while

2020-12-02 23:18:44 UTC  

Uh

2020-12-02 23:18:47 UTC  

Years ago