Of course we wouldn't find a remains of Jesus, that didn't even find them three days later when they searched the grave

I never said that the ark never existed. I said any written records from that time likely could not have

and the improbability of the ark story REALLY lends doubt to the stroy itself

He was never actually interred Toony...

But then how can you say that those events aren't factual, and only allegory ?

Do you REALLY think the Romans would have given him or allowed such an honor??

You know whom could've allowed it over any humans, right ?

God can make anything happen, people can't forget that.

We so limit God in what He has the power to do

Yes I believe they would have

Because the events described in that book are fantastical to the point of fiction... we KNOW how some things work in this world... like writing, weathering, etc...

AND... the book was written WAY after the events

According to scholars and scientists

The book was not written way after the events, they were written during

NO story survives exact and intact through word of mouth telling...

No... there is absolutely NO text of a bible from that time

They were not written on the paper that we used today

Yes there is

So again, if we discover texts in the future, then you would be wrong, lol ?

No... they would have been something like papyrus... but papyrus is still subject to the ravages of time

NOTHING is immune to that

God is immune to that

You're discounting the Bible as allegory based on that ALL evidence would already be gathered

But papyrus and other materials are not

If God wanted to make something exist that long, it will exist that long

I never once said I discounted the bible

You said those stories are mere allegory

Not factual.

Sounds like discounting...

I am actually a person of deep faith... but my faith IS tempered by what we know of science. God did not give us intelligence so we could just be blind sheep

Yeah that's why we have to question what the so-called scientists are saying

even the Vatican has scientific teams doing geology, astronomy, astrophysics, etc...

But he also didn't set in stone that everything that science shows us is 100% prrof of anything

I AM a scientist toony

I don't trust the Vatican, and I don't trust the pope

Carbon dating is proof... the speed of light is proof, etc..

The Vatican literally has a telescope that's named Lucifer

I mean, we're discovering things in quantum physics and mechanics that are beginning to question Einstein's theory of relativity, which was seen as fact for a long time

I don't trust the pope... but I do trust the SCIENTISTS at the Vatican. I also trust the scientists at numerous colleges and universities all over the world

Nothing we have discovered so far breaks any of einstein's laws...

Just because scientists make a discovery, it doesn't mean it's 100% fact and will never be challenged