Message from @DariusGalaxyz

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2020-12-09 18:16:31 UTC  
2020-12-09 18:16:41 UTC  

What about the Dead Sea Scrolls, they weren't even discovered until the 1950s or so. Meaning that just because they haven't been discovered doesn't mean they never existed.

2020-12-09 18:17:22 UTC  

The dead sea scrolls were also found in a pace uniquely favorable to the survival of such records...

2020-12-09 18:17:47 UTC  

IF records of those events had existed, they certainly did not by the time of Jesus's death

2020-12-09 18:17:51 UTC  

That's like before 1492 saying North America NEVER existed because it was never discovered.

2020-12-09 18:18:10 UTC  

Suddenly North America always existed since it was then discovered

2020-12-09 18:18:50 UTC  

So you're saying there's no way new records could be discovered ?

2020-12-09 18:18:57 UTC  

They're actually books named after the people who wrote them, Matthew Mark Luke John

2020-12-09 18:19:05 UTC  

The disciples that were actually with Jesus at the time he was walking the earth

2020-12-09 18:19:10 UTC  

Think about it... let's take for example the flood and Noah's Ark... let's just put aside, for a minute, the improbability of getting ALL of those animals and humans on a boat the size quoted in the Bible. Do you REALLY think ANY record of that event would have survived that cataclysm??

2020-12-09 18:19:14 UTC  

Just a few years ago they uncovered something new in Jerusalem that they're saying could've been where Jesus was.

2020-12-09 18:20:03 UTC  

Yes I do

2020-12-09 18:20:18 UTC  

Right, you're right. What if the evidence of the ark never survived? How then can you prove it's just a story and never existed ?

2020-12-09 18:20:19 UTC  

It took more than 500 years for them to find King Richard III.... you REALLY think we would EVER find the ACTUAL remains of Jesus??

2020-12-09 18:20:50 UTC  

Of course we wouldn't find a remains of Jesus, that didn't even find them three days later when they searched the grave

2020-12-09 18:20:55 UTC  

I never said that the ark never existed. I said any written records from that time likely could not have

2020-12-09 18:21:15 UTC  

and the improbability of the ark story REALLY lends doubt to the stroy itself

2020-12-09 18:21:30 UTC  

He was never actually interred Toony...

2020-12-09 18:21:31 UTC  

But then how can you say that those events aren't factual, and only allegory ?

2020-12-09 18:21:47 UTC  

Do you REALLY think the Romans would have given him or allowed such an honor??

2020-12-09 18:22:07 UTC  

You know whom could've allowed it over any humans, right ?

2020-12-09 18:22:20 UTC  

God can make anything happen, people can't forget that.

2020-12-09 18:22:28 UTC  

We so limit God in what He has the power to do

2020-12-09 18:22:29 UTC  

Yes I believe they would have

2020-12-09 18:22:30 UTC  

Because the events described in that book are fantastical to the point of fiction... we KNOW how some things work in this world... like writing, weathering, etc...

2020-12-09 18:23:02 UTC  

AND... the book was written WAY after the events

2020-12-09 18:23:14 UTC  

According to scholars and scientists

2020-12-09 18:23:17 UTC  

The book was not written way after the events, they were written during

2020-12-09 18:23:19 UTC  

NO story survives exact and intact through word of mouth telling...

2020-12-09 18:23:36 UTC  

No... there is absolutely NO text of a bible from that time

2020-12-09 18:23:38 UTC  

They were not written on the paper that we used today

2020-12-09 18:23:43 UTC  

Yes there is

2020-12-09 18:24:02 UTC  

So again, if we discover texts in the future, then you would be wrong, lol ?

2020-12-09 18:24:06 UTC  

No... they would have been something like papyrus... but papyrus is still subject to the ravages of time

2020-12-09 18:24:13 UTC  

NOTHING is immune to that

2020-12-09 18:24:21 UTC  

God is immune to that

2020-12-09 18:24:30 UTC  

You're discounting the Bible as allegory based on that ALL evidence would already be gathered

2020-12-09 18:24:34 UTC  

But papyrus and other materials are not

2020-12-09 18:24:48 UTC  

If God wanted to make something exist that long, it will exist that long

2020-12-09 18:24:50 UTC  

I never once said I discounted the bible

2020-12-09 18:25:01 UTC  

You said those stories are mere allegory