The book was not written way after the events, they were written during

NO story survives exact and intact through word of mouth telling...

No... there is absolutely NO text of a bible from that time

They were not written on the paper that we used today

Yes there is

So again, if we discover texts in the future, then you would be wrong, lol ?

No... they would have been something like papyrus... but papyrus is still subject to the ravages of time

NOTHING is immune to that

God is immune to that

You're discounting the Bible as allegory based on that ALL evidence would already be gathered

But papyrus and other materials are not

If God wanted to make something exist that long, it will exist that long

I never once said I discounted the bible

You said those stories are mere allegory

Not factual.

Sounds like discounting...

I am actually a person of deep faith... but my faith IS tempered by what we know of science. God did not give us intelligence so we could just be blind sheep

Yeah that's why we have to question what the so-called scientists are saying

even the Vatican has scientific teams doing geology, astronomy, astrophysics, etc...

But he also didn't set in stone that everything that science shows us is 100% prrof of anything

I AM a scientist toony

I don't trust the Vatican, and I don't trust the pope

Carbon dating is proof... the speed of light is proof, etc..

The Vatican literally has a telescope that's named Lucifer

I mean, we're discovering things in quantum physics and mechanics that are beginning to question Einstein's theory of relativity, which was seen as fact for a long time

I don't trust the pope... but I do trust the SCIENTISTS at the Vatican. I also trust the scientists at numerous colleges and universities all over the world

Nothing we have discovered so far breaks any of einstein's laws...

Just because scientists make a discovery, it doesn't mean it's 100% fact and will never be challenged

the ONLY thing we have found so far that breaks any of those laws is the BB itself...

That's the thing about science, it always follows the money, never the facts

Of course science is challenged. otherwise it's not science. But there are things is science that are hard and immutable facts... things such as the speed of light, speed of sound, carbon decay, etc

Einstein became famous for a whole bunch of theories that he couldn't improve

Sorry I'm doing talk to text 😅

Still, according to the scientists. ANY science can be flawed.

You think these college scientists get MONEY?? lmao... you have never been in a university science dept then

Oh my gosh! I'm sorry I have missed out on this conversation! This is my kind of discussion!!! Love it!

Those things that are hard and fast facts like I mentioned about can not be flawed...

No that's when they get used by the professors who earn the money

GamersForTrump, you wanna get caught up first ?

We can hold a pause in the chat

LOL... you think university professors get money and get rish off of this??