Message from @stoneytoney
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Yes I do
Right, you're right. What if the evidence of the ark never survived? How then can you prove it's just a story and never existed ?
It took more than 500 years for them to find King Richard III.... you REALLY think we would EVER find the ACTUAL remains of Jesus??
Of course we wouldn't find a remains of Jesus, that didn't even find them three days later when they searched the grave
I never said that the ark never existed. I said any written records from that time likely could not have
and the improbability of the ark story REALLY lends doubt to the stroy itself
He was never actually interred Toony...
But then how can you say that those events aren't factual, and only allegory ?
Do you REALLY think the Romans would have given him or allowed such an honor??
You know whom could've allowed it over any humans, right ?
God can make anything happen, people can't forget that.
We so limit God in what He has the power to do
Yes I believe they would have
Because the events described in that book are fantastical to the point of fiction... we KNOW how some things work in this world... like writing, weathering, etc...
AND... the book was written WAY after the events
According to scholars and scientists
The book was not written way after the events, they were written during
NO story survives exact and intact through word of mouth telling...
No... there is absolutely NO text of a bible from that time
They were not written on the paper that we used today
So again, if we discover texts in the future, then you would be wrong, lol ?
No... they would have been something like papyrus... but papyrus is still subject to the ravages of time
NOTHING is immune to that
God is immune to that
You're discounting the Bible as allegory based on that ALL evidence would already be gathered
But papyrus and other materials are not
If God wanted to make something exist that long, it will exist that long
I never once said I discounted the bible
You said those stories are mere allegory
Not factual.
Sounds like discounting...
I am actually a person of deep faith... but my faith IS tempered by what we know of science. God did not give us intelligence so we could just be blind sheep
Yeah that's why we have to question what the so-called scientists are saying
even the Vatican has scientific teams doing geology, astronomy, astrophysics, etc...
But he also didn't set in stone that everything that science shows us is 100% prrof of anything
I AM a scientist toony
I don't trust the Vatican, and I don't trust the pope
Carbon dating is proof... the speed of light is proof, etc..
The Vatican literally has a telescope that's named Lucifer
I mean, we're discovering things in quantum physics and mechanics that are beginning to question Einstein's theory of relativity, which was seen as fact for a long time