Message from @AnarchyDevin
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Although I don’t actually speak to any lefties anymore
"And if you want to continue to see people banning together and helping each other as greedy then go ahead. It's a weird take when there is so much proof that people are just social creatures and even altruistic but I understand that greed is a much easier viewpoint in this society" - a Leftist I had the pleasure of debating
People are naturally altruistic, nice one leech
"The biggest example is the food industry, which is why you see so many people against meat for ecological reasons. Overall they produce way more than they even end up putting on shelves for sell" - the same leftist when they were explaining overproduction
I imagine no one is going to agree with me but i think that ownership of production should belong to and be run by those that work to produce.
No, I do agree with you
Those who does not work, shall not eat
And weren't the pilgrims communist before John Smith said that? They had a pile in the settlement where people took what they need and what they produced
They put back in
I dunno mgtow seems to be primarily right leaning and anarchy is a primarily leftist ideology.
If you read Proudon yes, anarchy is left leaning
But anarchy is the lack of government
Leftism is totalitarian
It never lasts though. It may as well be left to the realm of fantasy like functioning and sustainable communism and socialism. About the only thing i disagree with is the liberation of women, cause as we all can see empowering women is a recipe for disaster.
Yeah as much as i don't want to admit it, for the most part we need some government to be a sustainable and lasting society.
If the people who do the work own the field they tend
If someone else owns the land and the produce then no, the people do not own it
The owner does
@GingerSnaps You can do left-right axis by the level of totalitarianism. Anarchy is actually on the far right end
Communism absolutely totalitarian
@AnarchyDevin Facists were actually socialist and belong on the far left. Same with the National Socialists (Nazi)
Anti-fa is actually the closest to fascists nowadays
What about Kingdoms?Napoleon?
I suppose you're right. Every left-right axis I've observed places anarchy as far left. But according to tfm's political trichotomy the extreme individualist right is anarcho-capitalism. So makes sense. I trust tfm more than my highschool teachers. Lol
That is feudalism, completely different
I like tfm too mate
It depends what scale you're looking at
i dont like the left right scale
@Whats gay anymore With feudalism?
i prefer the 4 sector one
Ah, well you can look at anarchy through history and almost every time it's pure Darwinism, see I define the Right as those that understand and do not prevent social hierarchies from forming
The left is all about making nobody lose in a system-basically competition is cruel
This makes the most sense to me
instead of just left and right
Except when has leftism been libertarian?
Leftists don't care about freedom, they think it's oppression (seriously)
modern day leftists
you wouldn't find them down there
it's like self ownership egalitarianism