*Ram's got me covered*

There you go.

Leftism is a fantasy

When people tell me how things should be, I reminisce "Ah, yes, the world of should. Where unicorns are real and communism actually works."

The wonderful world of make believe

I'll return. Eventually.

Not there, to the discord.

Ever think we will reach star trek tng levels of post-scarcity?

Outright not possible.

I mean I’m no science bitch so I say maybe

Ram is so big 🙃 <:why:480186116222353410> 🍆

Who am I to say we won’t have the ability to create anything we want in 10,000 years

My waifu can shapeshift, so she's gone into work as me before when I was sick 😅

Ya know

Leftists complain about overproduction

Do they

That’s one I haven’t heard

Yep

Normally it’s just the classic seizing the means of production argument

Although I don’t actually speak to any lefties anymore

"And if you want to continue to see people banning together and helping each other as greedy then go ahead. It's a weird take when there is so much proof that people are just social creatures and even altruistic but I understand that greed is a much easier viewpoint in this society" - a Leftist I had the pleasure of debating

People are naturally altruistic, nice one leech

"The biggest example is the food industry, which is why you see so many people against meat for ecological reasons. Overall they produce way more than they even end up putting on shelves for sell" - the same leftist when they were explaining overproduction

I imagine no one is going to agree with me but i think that ownership of production should belong to and be run by those that work to produce.

No, I do agree with you

Those who does not work, shall not eat

And weren't the pilgrims communist before John Smith said that? They had a pile in the settlement where people took what they need and what they produced

They put back in

I dunno mgtow seems to be primarily right leaning and anarchy is a primarily leftist ideology.

If you read Proudon yes, anarchy is left leaning

But anarchy is the lack of government

Leftism is totalitarian

It never lasts though. It may as well be left to the realm of fantasy like functioning and sustainable communism and socialism. About the only thing i disagree with is the liberation of women, cause as we all can see empowering women is a recipe for disaster.

Yeah as much as i don't want to admit it, for the most part we need some government to be a sustainable and lasting society.

If the people who do the work own the field they tend

If someone else owns the land and the produce then no, the people do not own it

The owner does

@GingerSnaps You can do left-right axis by the level of totalitarianism. Anarchy is actually on the far right end

Communism absolutely totalitarian

Well but don't forget the right can be totalitarian too, heard of Mussolini?

@AnarchyDevin Facists were actually socialist and belong on the far left. Same with the National Socialists (Nazi)