Message from @AnarchyDevin

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2019-06-13 11:47:09 UTC  

Ram is so big 🙃 <:why:480186116222353410> 🍆

2019-06-13 11:47:26 UTC  

Who am I to say we won’t have the ability to create anything we want in 10,000 years

2019-06-13 11:48:07 UTC  

My waifu can shapeshift, so she's gone into work as me before when I was sick 😅

2019-06-13 11:51:04 UTC  

Ya know

2019-06-13 11:51:17 UTC  

Leftists complain about overproduction

2019-06-13 11:53:37 UTC  

Do they

2019-06-13 11:53:43 UTC  

That’s one I haven’t heard

2019-06-13 11:54:15 UTC  

Yep

2019-06-13 11:54:45 UTC  

Normally it’s just the classic seizing the means of production argument

2019-06-13 11:57:32 UTC  

Although I don’t actually speak to any lefties anymore

2019-06-13 11:57:35 UTC  

"And if you want to continue to see people banning together and helping each other as greedy then go ahead. It's a weird take when there is so much proof that people are just social creatures and even altruistic but I understand that greed is a much easier viewpoint in this society" - a Leftist I had the pleasure of debating

2019-06-13 11:58:44 UTC  

People are naturally altruistic, nice one leech

2019-06-13 11:59:43 UTC  

"The biggest example is the food industry, which is why you see so many people against meat for ecological reasons. Overall they produce way more than they even end up putting on shelves for sell" - the same leftist when they were explaining overproduction

2019-06-13 12:00:24 UTC  

I imagine no one is going to agree with me but i think that ownership of production should belong to and be run by those that work to produce.

2019-06-13 12:01:05 UTC  

No, I do agree with you

2019-06-13 12:01:33 UTC  

Those who does not work, shall not eat

2019-06-13 12:02:51 UTC  

And weren't the pilgrims communist before John Smith said that? They had a pile in the settlement where people took what they need and what they produced

2019-06-13 12:03:30 UTC  

They put back in

2019-06-13 12:03:53 UTC  

I dunno mgtow seems to be primarily right leaning and anarchy is a primarily leftist ideology.

2019-06-13 12:04:40 UTC  

If you read Proudon yes, anarchy is left leaning

2019-06-13 12:06:05 UTC  

But anarchy is the lack of government

2019-06-13 12:06:22 UTC  

Leftism is totalitarian

2019-06-13 12:06:53 UTC  

It never lasts though. It may as well be left to the realm of fantasy like functioning and sustainable communism and socialism. About the only thing i disagree with is the liberation of women, cause as we all can see empowering women is a recipe for disaster.

2019-06-13 12:08:32 UTC  

Yeah as much as i don't want to admit it, for the most part we need some government to be a sustainable and lasting society.

2019-06-13 12:09:42 UTC  

If the people who do the work own the field they tend

2019-06-13 12:10:00 UTC  

If someone else owns the land and the produce then no, the people do not own it

2019-06-13 12:10:03 UTC  

The owner does

2019-06-13 12:13:00 UTC  

@GingerSnaps You can do left-right axis by the level of totalitarianism. Anarchy is actually on the far right end

2019-06-13 12:13:21 UTC  

Communism absolutely totalitarian

2019-06-13 12:14:34 UTC  

Well but don't forget the right can be totalitarian too, heard of Mussolini?

2019-06-13 12:15:29 UTC  

@AnarchyDevin Facists were actually socialist and belong on the far left. Same with the National Socialists (Nazi)

2019-06-13 12:15:57 UTC  

Anti-fa is actually the closest to fascists nowadays

2019-06-13 12:16:17 UTC  

What about Kingdoms?Napoleon?

2019-06-13 12:16:49 UTC  

I suppose you're right. Every left-right axis I've observed places anarchy as far left. But according to tfm's political trichotomy the extreme individualist right is anarcho-capitalism. So makes sense. I trust tfm more than my highschool teachers. Lol

2019-06-13 12:16:53 UTC  

That is feudalism, completely different

2019-06-13 12:17:20 UTC  

I like tfm too mate

2019-06-13 12:17:22 UTC  

It depends what scale you're looking at

2019-06-13 12:17:57 UTC  

i dont like the left right scale

2019-06-13 12:18:01 UTC  

@Whats gay anymore With feudalism?

2019-06-13 12:18:17 UTC  

i prefer the 4 sector one

2019-06-13 12:18:25 UTC  

Ah, well you can look at anarchy through history and almost every time it's pure Darwinism, see I define the Right as those that understand and do not prevent social hierarchies from forming