Message from @AnarchyDevin

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2019-06-13 12:10:03 UTC  

The owner does

2019-06-13 12:13:00 UTC  

@GingerSnaps You can do left-right axis by the level of totalitarianism. Anarchy is actually on the far right end

2019-06-13 12:13:21 UTC  

Communism absolutely totalitarian

2019-06-13 12:14:34 UTC  

Well but don't forget the right can be totalitarian too, heard of Mussolini?

2019-06-13 12:15:29 UTC  

@AnarchyDevin Facists were actually socialist and belong on the far left. Same with the National Socialists (Nazi)

2019-06-13 12:15:57 UTC  

Anti-fa is actually the closest to fascists nowadays

2019-06-13 12:16:17 UTC  

What about Kingdoms?Napoleon?

2019-06-13 12:16:49 UTC  

I suppose you're right. Every left-right axis I've observed places anarchy as far left. But according to tfm's political trichotomy the extreme individualist right is anarcho-capitalism. So makes sense. I trust tfm more than my highschool teachers. Lol

2019-06-13 12:16:53 UTC  

That is feudalism, completely different

2019-06-13 12:17:20 UTC  

I like tfm too mate

2019-06-13 12:17:22 UTC  

It depends what scale you're looking at

2019-06-13 12:17:57 UTC  

i dont like the left right scale

2019-06-13 12:18:01 UTC  

@Whats gay anymore With feudalism?

2019-06-13 12:18:17 UTC  

i prefer the 4 sector one

2019-06-13 12:18:25 UTC  

Ah, well you can look at anarchy through history and almost every time it's pure Darwinism, see I define the Right as those that understand and do not prevent social hierarchies from forming

2019-06-13 12:18:57 UTC  

The left is all about making nobody lose in a system-basically competition is cruel

2019-06-13 12:19:29 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/471844105463529472/588703993950240785/200px-Political_Compass_yellow_LibRight_v2.png

2019-06-13 12:19:33 UTC  

This makes the most sense to me

2019-06-13 12:19:36 UTC  

instead of just left and right

2019-06-13 12:20:09 UTC  

Except when has leftism been libertarian?

2019-06-13 12:20:40 UTC  

Leftists don't care about freedom, they think it's oppression (seriously)

2019-06-13 12:20:49 UTC  

modern day leftists

2019-06-13 12:20:54 UTC  

you wouldn't find them down there

2019-06-13 12:21:16 UTC  

it's like self ownership egalitarianism

2019-06-13 12:21:40 UTC  

I mean sure, Marx did view freedom as the most important part of human rights

2019-06-13 12:22:03 UTC  

The left and right should be replaced with collectivism and individualism

2019-06-13 12:22:27 UTC  

Kind of counterintuitive for a communist if you ask me.

2019-06-13 12:22:27 UTC  

that's essentially how i interpret it now

2019-06-13 12:22:52 UTC  

i imagine it's the least fallen into part of the 4 sectors for sure lol

2019-06-13 12:23:16 UTC  

ndividualism is often defined in contrast to totalitarianism, collectivism, and more corporate social forms

2019-06-13 12:23:30 UTC  

Yet it's the most common part for people who take the test to fall into

2019-06-13 12:24:11 UTC  

like, right near centre or far left libertarians?

2019-06-13 12:24:37 UTC  

Because contemporary morality falls in that quadrant

2019-06-13 12:25:02 UTC  

Not exactly near the center or far left

2019-06-13 12:27:59 UTC  

I saw a similar representation as the one @Whats gay anymore posted, but with a circle. Collectivism and individualism were in the far left and far right respectively

2019-06-13 12:31:39 UTC  

People say individualism is bad because it means "nobody works together and hates eachother"
But collectivism leads to the hatred of what is different, and doesn't fit into the collective

2019-06-13 12:32:48 UTC  

Notice, the left tries to censor whatever doesn't fit into their narrative

2019-06-13 12:33:40 UTC  

Notice how they stopped talking about North Korea being communist

2019-06-13 12:34:03 UTC  

Collectivism doesn't work. There's no such thing as a total hivemind.

2019-06-13 12:35:28 UTC  

"B-but humans are social creatures!!!!"

2019-06-13 12:37:07 UTC  

@[chase dreams] What about the Borg?