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Where can I found source for that survey? And more generally where can I find more official statistics of this kind ? Thanks!
fbi crime statistics
try past 20yrs
SirW00f#8599 thanks for that, it was bit obvious. Now, I think that mentioning source in memes makes it “next level”.
Lmao
Yes it does
If abortion was banned in the US, it'd be increasing the overall birth rate by 25% (4 mil born, 1 mil aborted per year). Statistically if you have a child out of wedlock you're much more likely to be poorer, the child is also much more likely to turn out negatively (crime/drugs/suicide/dropping out etc) if they're raised by a single parent. As most children aborted would've been unplanned and likely out of wedlock, we'd generally recommend adoption/the foster system instead for them. How could we pay for nearly 1,000,000 extra children per year entering the foster/adoption system? It costs roughly $200k to raise a child until they're 18, and $200k*1 million = $200 billion, it'd be impossible to fund that through charity. I'd gladly take whatever tax increase if it meant stopping children being killed, but I'm not dumb enough to believe all of my extra taxes would go towards children alone, or that when a Democrat was elected that my taxes would magically go back down - they could even go towards funding things like more abortions since it'll be decided by states even if Roe is overturned.
How would all those kids be paid for? Would you risk socialism (high taxes/government control etc) in order to stop abortion?
Also most of the arguments applied to the unborn child e.g brain waves, heartbeat, unique DNA, pain sensation etc could also be applied to animals too, but I'm still a carnivore as are most people are, all for our own convenience. Animals can have relationships with each other and humans to some degree, they can show emotion to some degree also, certainly more than an unborn child would. Also the arguments for population control for hunting game is the same argument the left and greenies make for killing unborn children
That is very interesting thought process. First, I don't think if abortion was banned, or mostly banned, all one million aborted would now be born. I'd think that number would go down first because people would have to go back to patterns before Roe v Wade and be more careful with the added benefit of modern contraceptives.
Secondly, if I could be guaranteed most of a tax increase would go to the foster system I'd be in favor of that, thou I do prefer it where currently a lot of it is paid by charity and and religious organizations. When I get out of college and have a stable job, fostering and adoption is something I plan to do and wish more people would consider it an option. It's obviously not for everyone and has challenges that go on top of what would already be raising a child but more people could do it then currently. To help that cause, the cost to foster and adopt, particularly domestic, should be cheaper so not just the upper income people can afford to do it. It's a reason some companies now include adoption benefits to complement maternity/ paternity benefits, particularly when it's a cheap thing for a company to offer benefit wise when most people won't use it.
You'll trust a politicians word on how your taxes will be spent? They have 1000 things to spend on already, it's impossible to guarantee it unless it's you in office. Also if a Democrat comes into power your taxes will either stay at the same rate or go even higher, they'll have the same revenue as the previous incumbent had and you'll get no say really where it goes then. It could also split the Republican party also because of the high taxes, which is traditionally antithetical to Conservatism. Today in the US there's 440k kids in the foster system altogether and it's already heavily burdened for things like funding already. Only around 135k are adopted every year. If banning abortion lead to even a 60% decrease in unplanned pregnancies due to more carefulness with contraceptives, it's still be doubling the burden of the system instantly, which would compound every year. I also do think more people should adopt, but I think the only way to make it feasible to have all of those kids looked after would be to force people to take them. Things like tax incentives or company benefits it'd be tough to get the amount of engagement needed as kids are a lot of work and take 18 years to raise. It'd have to be around a $11,000 tax break per year to be enough.
Do you have any ideas on how to make the cost of fostering/adoption cheaper @Stargatemaster96 ? It'd probably help, but I can't think of anything since things like price controls are a disaster and I stay away from it. If we outsourced more manufacturing to the sweatshops of Asia/Africa it'd probably make the cost of living a lot cheaper, but put millions out of work and destroy the economy
most of ur taxes doesn't do shit in the cities/states ...most of the shit gets paid for in fines on everybody
the taxes pay for the perks of political officials mostly
One of the ways to lower the cost is all the legal fees and licenses. If you become a foster parent and later adopt a foster, many of the fees, training, and licenses are waved by the state. However direct adoption (not even talking private adoption that can be $100k+) even out of foster care can cost $60k+. While fostering is great, not everyone wants or is able to do that and instead want to just adopt.
Also, you may be aware but beside the child tax benefit you would get anyway, there is an extra tax benefit which I think is a monthly check as long as a child is a foster (thus technically in states care) for foster parents. I don't know how much it is, I'm fairly sure it depends on the child based on their age and if they have any extra extenuating circumstances, but it's actually non insignificant.
foster a child, state supports the child and the foster parent, but foster a pet, state washes it's hands and foster parent is req'd to cover all costs and report to mandatory medical checkups for the pet
i don't foster pets, i adopt them
i cover all the costs anyway...and treat them with love and respect, but i don't have to report to somebody over it
@Stargatemaster96 Do you think that would be enough on the scale of hundreds of thousands of kids each year? To incentivize hundreds of thousands of people to adopt/foster?
well ironically during hitler's germany ...the state added bonuses to families that raised alot of kids even those that adopted
@natzzmillions_ No, but it also wouldn't hurt. I think the government really needs to make the process easier and make more people aware of all it entails and encourage more people to do it. I think the whole process for most people are wrapped in unknowns. I do also think that some of the work that the state requires need to be reassessed. You practically have to baby proof your house to foster and/or till an adoption completes regardless of the child's age. It's really a nanny state many places. Some states don't even let you own a gun while fostering, not just require there arbitrary safe storage requirements. You also have the many assessments and meetings foster parents have to attend that are particularly difficult for working families, particularly ones where both parents work or single parent households.
locally, i see more and more grand parents and great grand parents raising their own kids's kids because their own kids have no idea how to properly raise kids
That's also a sad state of our culture but it's also I see the best case for a bad situation. At least in that case the kids are staying inside the family.
i kinda noticed this shit happened when i used to babysit ..parents having no clue and having to hire a decent sitter to teach and tutor their own kids
btw, i normally took a painter's grade gas mask with me on those times when the kid was still in diaper phase
That said, the state trys to keep kids inside the family as much as possible, sometimes to the detriment of the child. A family friend fosters and adopts special needs kids and has had long legal fights to try and adopt one of the kids who was abused as a child and now has mental problems. Only after the child started making improvements did an aunt and uncle show interest in the child (that and the tax benefit of taking in the kid who is now special needs). The fee times the Aunt and uncle took temporary custody as trial runs they did not take care of the kids properly, didn't take him to all the physical and mental therapies, and didn't show up in court. However the state tried multiple times to place the kid with them rather then my family friends who loved and cared for the kid for years. Eventually my family friends got full custody and adopted him but it was a three year legal fight.
most of the 'foster' families i've seen locally were run by ppl that work for the state or local gov..and normally end up having a hired work slave paid for by the state but as their 'fostered' child
Those types of people are unfortunately attracted by the tax credits and monthly paychecks from the state.
However sometimes to help more people be able to foster and adopt you have to wade through those people. Ideally you would only have loving and caring families fostering and adopting but we live in a corrupted world. There is a difference between a kid being expected to help around the house or help with lawn care and only getting kids for that purpose.
well the foster care system has been abused alot for slavery and sex slavery ...even predators have been found to be using it
Which is completely unforgivable in my mind, not only would you do things like that but to damaged and vulnerable kids takes it to a different level of evil.
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So. why do the people call Mitch McConnell as Cocaine Mitch and also say that Nancy Pelosi is drunk with vodka?
for Pelosi, her emeanor and behavior make her seem drunk all the time, and I'm not sure why Mitch has that nickname
@Einstein Nnaji Here is an article on McConnel's situation (bias is likely) https://apnews.com/da3f87e9c5da4e12b4022b0bd84f59ec
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Do you think that Pelosi will spend a million of our tax dollars on golden pens to sign the impeachment of the president again?