people will hate me for saying it, and I truly believe abortion is evil, but sometimes kids are better off not being born than going through that Hell.

Im atheist, I think Christianphobia is real.

I see it all over the place.

This is extremely true a little company does more then celebrities

Besides all the hoops you have to jump through to foster/adopt, I think one of the biggest problems is how expensive it is for some reason.

Philanthropy is almost dead... many great things of the past came from it, but now we have virtue signaling cunts that do fake philanthropy.

@Stargatemaster96 Christians are going to have to be ready to adopt after abortion is illegal

There also also so many rules you have to follow, some states don't even let you foster/adopt if you own a firearm in your house, even if it's kept secure.

it's true. And you can take it to the extreme: in wars/genocide, is it better for the parents to not give birth at all and don't burden the child with the suffering? There is a moral question: let's say a pack of wolves are chasing a parent and his/her child, what should the parent do? The most efficient answer is: the parent leaving the child to be mauled. so, you can argue lives are dispensable and kids' lives are, too

After abortion is illegal millions of kids are going to be born... and people have to be ready to help

if the legalities are not fixed, though, people that want to help still CAN'T help

Along with other stupid shit like that, something else that bothers me is examples where they didnt let a gay couple adopt a child... Youre telling me this gay couple with, as one comedian put it, "gay people have plenty of disposable income." LMAO arent allowed to adopt a child... why? They live in a nice area, they have a nice house, a nice environment, want a child badly they cant produce on their own, are willing to put the child in a good school and give them excellent care... but why arent they allowed to adopt? The child deserves to sit in the adoption hell instead? fuck off.

@isoboto they will be able to just watch

I already plan to. God has already given me that desire and my degrees will mean I will have the economic ability to pay for all those expensive legal things to do that.

yeah. i think that's a dumb rule to exclude gay couples. i thought most states got that rules crossed out already, though?

I have no idea, everywhere is different, and people in charge of that stuff can do illegal things and get away with it.

Ive seen example of it in the past, just as you guys pointed out examples of not being allowed to adopt because you wanted to home school, or someone owned a legal registered safely stored firearm, etc.

I don't think they should be excluded but they won't be able to keep the emotional stability as a mom and dad

thats debatable, and a whole different discussion.

It is a VERY crucial balance

@Wardog they can be AMAZING parents but certain characteristics need to be filled by a mom and or dad

For pubic adoptions I agree they shouldn't discriminate based on sexual orientation but some places also want to force the private christian foster organizations to allow gay adoption. That's a gray line I can see both sides of. It's not preventing gays from adopting public or from other adoption groups just not that particular religious one. However, it also limits the child's options.

so a little less than half of all first marriages end in divorce. thats some of the highest in history, is it not? that doesnt seem incredibly stable in my opinion. Im not attacking your point, but just because a couple is straight doesnt mean they are more stable than a gay couple.

I personally lean on the side of religious freedom when choosing who can adopt but I think in most cases the child is technically still a ward of the state so the alternative has merit.

i'm incline to disagree. usually gay couples (and i'm strictly talking lesbian/gay, not the non-binary stuffs), would have one in a slightly more "masculine" attitude and the other in a slightly more "feminine" attitude.

It doesnt matter what you follow, what you believe, what you identify as... all that matters is who you are and if you would be able to properly take care of a child in my opinion.

that is true. though its something the SJW gays dont like talking about, there is very often a more masculine and feminine partner in the relationship. those are more successful relationships as well within that demographic.

absolutely agree. i'd like to see legal cutting/reform to allow easier adoption for those that are financially and emotionally ready and want to adopt

hey, the left wants more social workers and stuff like that... we could have more... but instead of replacing the police, we just have them vetting couples or individuals who want to adopt. more jobs, more adoptions, less kids in adoption hell.

lmao deregulate adoption

They make good parents but when it comes to the child's mental health it is proven that kids with a mom and a dad are less likely to commit suicide

is that "kids with a mom and a dad instead of a single parent" or "kids with a mom and a dad instead of a dad and a dad or a mom and a mom" ?

I think one way to encourage adoption is if more companies included adoption benefits like they do maternity leave. I read some stats about that at one point and it's a low cost thing for companies to offer because most won't ever use it while for those that do, it allows more people to adopt by covering the fees.

because I feel like its probably the first one. if you have a source for it, please, change my mind (:

I like that David, thats a good idea.

i've started adopting the attitude of "less social workers = better society" after i learnt that socialism/communism uses social workers to disrupt relationships and overburden more bureaucracy/wasting money

you know what, that might be true. doesnt seem implausible. ill give you that one... and I have seen some bad shit before in that regard. but idk. im not sure if thats really the majority of what they do.

What I'm talking about is even if someone is a lgptq+ parent the kid needs a father figure or a motherly figure in their life

And it's not just those kids everyone needs parent like figures

that's a good idea that companies could try out

well, one way to cut down costs/regulations is cutting down bureaucracy. so if we ever reach a point where anybody cares to reform foster system, i suspect whoever spearhead the initiative to go through all the admins fluffs and started cutting down levels whose responsibilities overlapped with each other