Message from @Bar
Discord ID: 785972287299125319
well, it also depends on the cultural context. in asia/asians, we place a lot of values on lineage or the concept of bloodlines/family blood is thicker than blood, so adoption usually get you a lot of frowns
It's because Muhammad married his adopted sons wife who he divorced after Muhammad lusted after her. however, even in that culture, people thought that was wrong and Muhammad then got word that adoption was no longer a thing so it was ok to do.
So you want people without children to subsidize the personal choices of other people??? If you need someone else to subsidize your personal choices, you aren't ready for those choices.
I'm not saying require it, but have it as an optional benefit that a company can offer similar to how maternity benefits are not required but a benefit many companies offer to full time employees. You already have some companies that do this like Netflix, Hilton, Snap Inc., and Bank of America.
If Maternity leave is a thing, than I think its more than acceptable and more than reasonable to have something similar for a family adopting a child.
Not the same, not at all, but something.
You know what? I actually really like David!!!
We are all David-stan in this house
lmao
I'm honestly starting to really like you xD@isoboto
thank you, thank you. I like me, too
That is very true. We adopted six children out the of the CPS system. Imagine the DPS, the post office and buying a house everyday for 18 months... times six
Some businesses do offer it along with their standard maternity leave. It is still someone subsidizes a personal choice. That cost comes from somewhere, nothing is free.
it was worth it in the end (although obviously, not having to go through the tediousness of bureaucracy is the preferred process)
Actually it's from your labor, instead of the money going to your pay check, it's put into your benefits.
More than worth it, or we wouldn't have done it six times.
No its from EVERYONE's labor, even employees without children.
So do you belief maternity leave and company health insurance is also wrong. Some people use more benefits then others and pull more out of the pool while other use less of the benefits.
The idea is that eventually everyone will get about equal use out of their benefits if they stay long enough. However it is still a product of your labor because it's a part of your pay for working at said company.
I'm an employer who does not offer maternity leave for anyone, because the cost is borne by others. Only PART of the cost is borne by you, the rest is borne by others. Insurance is different because the cost is LESS to the employee due to the group aspect.
Only those who have children during their employment can ever see the benefit. Nearly half of my employees already have their children and won't have more. It is unfair to make them bear the cost of someone else's personal choices.
And many employees pass through here in less than a few years, reaping a benefit and then leaving.
I have no problem with you as an employer doing that. I know many people who are young would prefer that because they would want more pay now rather then more benefits. I wouldn't want to require things like that because companies and individuals have different priorities. However because we live in a simi capitalist society, someone else may go elsewhere where they have less take home pay but the benefit package includes more paid vacation, better insurance options, or maternity/paternity leave.
The problem arises as some voluntarily offer the benefit, many more believe it should be mandatory, just listen to the SJW crowd about nearly anything. I'm still working into my 70's because I have a team of people currently depending on my businesses for their livelihood. When I leave the businesses are done, unless those employees want to purchase the assets and keep it going. I have in the last decade been forced to do a great many things that I'd just as soon not, but laws have changed forcing the actions. I'm now at a point where I'll close it all up and sell off the assets before I'm forced into another compromise, putting over 400 families out of work. That's sad, but I'm at the end of the string anyway, its going to happen soon anyway.
Hey all could you guys get me links of Biden saying hes going to take away guns
Trying to prove a family member wrong
idk if this helps u but I just found these vids
He also said he was going to appoint Beta "Hell yes" O'Rourke to take away guns
Thank you
good work guys
this community is awesome
Very awesome indeed
It really is
No problem, just wanna be Zeducated and help the community 🙂
Hey guys, im arguing some flaming leftists. I need some sources on why we are better off under Trump than Obamacare for healthcare.
Also, they are arguing that its worse as a trans person under Trump
just had a half an hour argument with them. like 6 of them. and theyve all stopped talking. the only thing they were clinging onto was the healthcare topic. jesus christ so fucking uncivil sometimes. they tried to default to arguments of personal things to attack me that didnt work lol. tried to attack my belief in God as an atheist... or my homophobia for not wanting gay parents to be able to adopt children when I actually support that.