Message from @Ol stick
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Obama still couldn't be president again.
Both the 12th and 22nd Amendments say that nobody who has been president for 2 terms can be president again.
12th says that?
I'm pretty sure it was just a formality until FDR had 4 terms and made the 22nd ammendment
12 says something along those lines
12 outlines how they're elected
I don't think it includes term limits
otherwise FDR wouldn't have been able to have 4 terms right?
Maybe
There was no law against a president serving more then 2 terms till after FDR died in office.
Also, there has been a President before who won his first run, lost his second run, then won his third run. (Grover Cleveland)
sorry I forgot Roosevelt died in office. I just remembered it was made because of him
Children should not be used as a face for a political movement. Besides that, with the left habit of causing violence, I'd be scared kids would get hurt. We know Antifa has no problem beating weaker people.
Agreed
I think only when you are armed
I may keep myself responsibly armed whenever I'm out but I still wouldn't want to subject any kid of mine or any kid to an unnecessary situation where defensive use would be needed.
I did take my oldest to see the VP last month. She's 18 and still in HS but it was pretty much a once in a lifetime opportunity. We saw kids there and I thought that, while it's their right, kids should know what they're hearing about before they go to a rally of the political nature.
18 is old enough to vote so at that point I think it is upto them and you as a parent. However anything younger then say 16 I think is a problem.
Depends on the age. 13 and older is what i say
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Yeah, I wouldn’t take a 6 year old or anything, but if there a lot older and are interested in politics, why not?
If Antifa didn't exist, sure take your kid.
Unfortunately, we live in a dangerous environment for political expression, and a dutiful parent should recognize the danger.
True
Yea I would say about 13 and up
Personally I wouldn't mind going as a 16 year old
But with antifa roaming around...
I can't risk my safety
Especially when these people play dirty
What use is a fire arm when you're attacked with a brick in the back of the head
Wear a hard hat
It depends on whether or not people should bring their children. I started getting into politics at 15/16, some people do as well, some people are even in debate clubs at an earlier age. I can support people bringing kids around that age to rallies... but if we start talking about 11 year olds or toddlers or that kind of age range, thats a hard no from me. It was brutal when I went to one, and Im an adult. Stood there waiting about 4 hours before the rally actually started. Thats going to be absolutely miserable for a little kid, especially kids of ages that arent expected to be relatively mature yet. I dont like babies yelling and screaming either, and I did not enjoy the baby screaming while Trump was talking at the rally.
Exactly
I think kids don't belong at rallies regardless now. They turn violent way too quickly, and it feels like bringing your kids is dangerous at this point. If you'd asked me ten years ago, I wouldn't have had as much of an issue with it, but now? No. You shouldn't risk your kids being pepper sprayed IMO unless they're like 14 and want to go with you.
The rally I went too was fine. There wasnt any violence, and the only "opposition" that was there was this old lady who looked like she had done a bit too much meth with a Biden Harris sign and what im guessing is her husband she forced to come holding a "Trump is corrupt" sign talking on his cell phone lmao. Some definitely turn violent, some dont even have the slightest issue. Just depends on where youre at I guess. And honestly dont know if I can say "some people might get violent there so dont go or bring your kids" is a fair argument in my personal opinion.
Plus, a 8 year old doesn’t understand politics, it’s not fair to drag them along
whether its people I agree with, or dont agree with, I dont think we should be forcing political opinions on children that dont understand them yet. When I got into politics in highschool all on my own... almost no one would debate me or have a meaningful conversation... sadly it was mostly because "I believe what I do because my parents believe that" and it really made my head hurt back then. Not going to advocate for that now.
If you're gonna bring your kid, at least be extremely situationally aware, and if it starts going badly, get them out. I've seen way too much footage of literal children getting pepper sprayed this year at "peaceful protests."
that goes in line with needing police to be allowed to actually uphold the law and arrest people...
And if the police were allowed to do their jobs, I'd have less of an issue with kids at protests
@Kaladin no, my father is a registered republican and a little bit political, my mother is a registered democrat because she never changed it since she was younger, shes not very political. but she aligns with the republican party a lot more, theyre both religious. they never really did or said anything political around me.