you are borne the way you are born, and gay sex (or as the bible defines sex) is, in protastantism a sin

yeah

Contrary to popular perception, we are not all children of God. He created us, but we are adopted into being children of God when we get saved by Christ

That's right, Cool Guard.

Yep, but that doesn't make us perfect or "what God made us like", that's simply what I was trying to say.

no, we must be good people, but being gay is not a bad thing, as only the lustful act of sex affiliated with it is deemed a sin in the bible

Yeah we aren't all children of God, but being gay isn't a sin. Doing gay stuff is. Saying being gay is sinful is like saying that having green eyes is sinful, or having red hair is sinful.

1st Corinthians 6:9 "Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality,"

"Nor men who practice homosexuality"

Practicing it is everything that comes with it, such as thoughts, actions, etc.

Men who practice it yes...

okay so control your thoughts and actions

So being gay....

but if you're tempted to have those thoughts

BRO

Because you have thoughts that you can't control

being gay = not sinful
doing gay stuff = sinul

wut

everyone can control their thoughts xD

exactly!

So therefor, you choose to be gay

being gay would mean being tempted to think gay things or do gay things

yes....

a very small percentage of people have a mental disability

which makes them attracted to the same sex

wait what

thats not sinful- they havent done anything wrong for having that

but if they act upon their temptations, they are sinning

So you're saying that it's not right, that's why it is a mental disibility?

it's not right?

> but if they act upon their temptations, they are sinning
@Risate yes, just like a man having attractions to a woman who isn't his wife

wait so

ur saying if ur attracted to a girl

then its sinful?

No, because that's the way God intended love between humans

its only sinful if you "stare at a pretty girl, in case you and she incur the same punishment."

book for Sirach i forget where

but being attracted is fine

If you have attractions wrongly, they are wrong. I honestly think we're agreeing right now but we don't know lmao

yes im very confused xD

so ur saying wait