Message from @little hollow

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2020-10-27 16:54:54 UTC  

we are all gods children and he loves us all

2020-10-27 16:55:42 UTC  

the greatest power is love, it matters not who wields it

2020-10-27 17:02:31 UTC  

Where does it say in the Bible to kill your children if they misbehave? lol Don't know what Bible you're reading

2020-10-27 17:06:07 UTC  

We are all Gods children, and we are all sinners, and yes he does love us all. But he doesn't love the sin and crimes we commit against each other or him such as homosexuality.

2020-10-27 17:10:18 UTC  

And yes, God does make us. But he doesn't tempt us or make us sin. That's simply our nature, he literally in every possible way couldn't make us sin because it is out of his nature to do something immoral such as tempt someone to do something evil and wrong as he is a morally perfect God.

2020-10-27 17:16:01 UTC  

And if you want me to point out verses in the Bible where it rebukes homosexuality or anything out of heterosexuality, I can get quite a few.

2020-10-27 17:16:44 UTC  

I can understand if you don't believe in the God of the Bible, but that's neither here nor there.

2020-10-27 17:19:21 UTC  

And that's a different conversation to be had then.

2020-10-27 17:36:36 UTC  

i know the passages

2020-10-27 17:46:47 UTC  

@little hollow those passage are actually a left over from an earlier Zoroastrian idea that prohibts anal for safety reasons. the passages in the bible solely refer to sexual acts, being gay is not sinful, man on man anal is, according to the bible. And yes I am a man of god, just with a different scipture.

2020-10-27 17:48:39 UTC  

Being gay (as in being attracted to males) is something that can't be avoided. In order to commit a sin, you would need to commit a gay act. If you're just born as a gay person, you couldn't change anything and it's not your fault even a little bit. If you choose to follow your gay impulses, then you have done something immorally wrong- but being born with a certain attraction or not is something completely out of your control and unavoidable.

2020-10-27 17:49:09 UTC  

It's not like before you're concieved you get an option screen "Gay or no gay". You don't have a choice.

2020-10-27 17:49:55 UTC  

you are borne the way you are born, and gay sex (or as the bible defines sex) is, in protastantism a sin

2020-10-27 17:50:14 UTC  

yeah

2020-10-27 18:52:41 UTC  

Contrary to popular perception, we are not all children of God. He created us, but we are adopted into being children of God when we get saved by Christ

2020-10-27 18:56:33 UTC  

That's right, Cool Guard.

2020-10-27 19:06:08 UTC  

Yep, but that doesn't make us perfect or "what God made us like", that's simply what I was trying to say.

2020-10-27 19:15:51 UTC  

no, we must be good people, but being gay is not a bad thing, as only the lustful act of sex affiliated with it is deemed a sin in the bible

2020-10-27 19:26:34 UTC  

Yeah we aren't all children of God, but being gay isn't a sin. Doing gay stuff is. Saying being gay is sinful is like saying that having green eyes is sinful, or having red hair is sinful.

2020-10-27 19:32:19 UTC  

1st Corinthians 6:9 "Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality,"

2020-10-27 19:32:29 UTC  

"Nor men who practice homosexuality"

2020-10-27 19:32:42 UTC  

Practicing it is everything that comes with it, such as thoughts, actions, etc.

2020-10-27 19:33:20 UTC  

Men who practice it yes...

2020-10-27 19:33:24 UTC  

okay so control your thoughts and actions

2020-10-27 19:33:29 UTC  

So being gay....

2020-10-27 19:33:30 UTC  

but if you're tempted to have those thoughts

2020-10-27 19:33:31 UTC  

BRO

2020-10-27 19:33:36 UTC  

Because you have thoughts that you can't control

2020-10-27 19:33:39 UTC  

being gay = not sinful
doing gay stuff = sinul

2020-10-27 19:33:44 UTC  

wut

2020-10-27 19:33:44 UTC  

everyone can control their thoughts xD

2020-10-27 19:33:51 UTC  

exactly!

2020-10-27 19:34:00 UTC  

So therefor, you choose to be gay

2020-10-27 19:34:10 UTC  

being gay would mean being tempted to think gay things or do gay things

2020-10-27 19:34:15 UTC  

yes....

2020-10-27 19:34:21 UTC  

a very small percentage of people have a mental disability

2020-10-27 19:34:26 UTC  

which makes them attracted to the same sex

2020-10-27 19:34:26 UTC  

wait what

2020-10-27 19:34:38 UTC  

thats not sinful- they havent done anything wrong for having that

2020-10-27 19:34:46 UTC  

but if they act upon their temptations, they are sinning

2020-10-27 19:34:54 UTC  

So you're saying that it's not right, that's why it is a mental disibility?