Message from @Risate
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I can understand if you don't believe in the God of the Bible, but that's neither here nor there.
And that's a different conversation to be had then.
i know the passages
@little hollow those passage are actually a left over from an earlier Zoroastrian idea that prohibts anal for safety reasons. the passages in the bible solely refer to sexual acts, being gay is not sinful, man on man anal is, according to the bible. And yes I am a man of god, just with a different scipture.
Being gay (as in being attracted to males) is something that can't be avoided. In order to commit a sin, you would need to commit a gay act. If you're just born as a gay person, you couldn't change anything and it's not your fault even a little bit. If you choose to follow your gay impulses, then you have done something immorally wrong- but being born with a certain attraction or not is something completely out of your control and unavoidable.
It's not like before you're concieved you get an option screen "Gay or no gay". You don't have a choice.
you are borne the way you are born, and gay sex (or as the bible defines sex) is, in protastantism a sin
yeah
Contrary to popular perception, we are not all children of God. He created us, but we are adopted into being children of God when we get saved by Christ
That's right, Cool Guard.
Yep, but that doesn't make us perfect or "what God made us like", that's simply what I was trying to say.
no, we must be good people, but being gay is not a bad thing, as only the lustful act of sex affiliated with it is deemed a sin in the bible
Yeah we aren't all children of God, but being gay isn't a sin. Doing gay stuff is. Saying being gay is sinful is like saying that having green eyes is sinful, or having red hair is sinful.
1st Corinthians 6:9 "Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality,"
"Nor men who practice homosexuality"
Practicing it is everything that comes with it, such as thoughts, actions, etc.
Men who practice it yes...
okay so control your thoughts and actions
So being gay....
but if you're tempted to have those thoughts
Because you have thoughts that you can't control
being gay = not sinful
doing gay stuff = sinul
wut
everyone can control their thoughts xD
exactly!
So therefor, you choose to be gay
being gay would mean being tempted to think gay things or do gay things
yes....
a very small percentage of people have a mental disability
which makes them attracted to the same sex
wait what
thats not sinful- they havent done anything wrong for having that
but if they act upon their temptations, they are sinning
So you're saying that it's not right, that's why it is a mental disibility?
it's not right?
> but if they act upon their temptations, they are sinning
@Risate yes, just like a man having attractions to a woman who isn't his wife
wait so
ur saying if ur attracted to a girl
then its sinful?
No, because that's the way God intended love between humans