Message from @little hollow

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2020-10-27 17:46:47 UTC  

@little hollow those passage are actually a left over from an earlier Zoroastrian idea that prohibts anal for safety reasons. the passages in the bible solely refer to sexual acts, being gay is not sinful, man on man anal is, according to the bible. And yes I am a man of god, just with a different scipture.

2020-10-27 17:48:39 UTC  

Being gay (as in being attracted to males) is something that can't be avoided. In order to commit a sin, you would need to commit a gay act. If you're just born as a gay person, you couldn't change anything and it's not your fault even a little bit. If you choose to follow your gay impulses, then you have done something immorally wrong- but being born with a certain attraction or not is something completely out of your control and unavoidable.

2020-10-27 17:49:09 UTC  

It's not like before you're concieved you get an option screen "Gay or no gay". You don't have a choice.

2020-10-27 17:49:55 UTC  

you are borne the way you are born, and gay sex (or as the bible defines sex) is, in protastantism a sin

2020-10-27 17:50:14 UTC  

yeah

2020-10-27 18:52:41 UTC  

Contrary to popular perception, we are not all children of God. He created us, but we are adopted into being children of God when we get saved by Christ

2020-10-27 18:56:33 UTC  

That's right, Cool Guard.

2020-10-27 19:06:08 UTC  

Yep, but that doesn't make us perfect or "what God made us like", that's simply what I was trying to say.

2020-10-27 19:15:51 UTC  

no, we must be good people, but being gay is not a bad thing, as only the lustful act of sex affiliated with it is deemed a sin in the bible

2020-10-27 19:26:34 UTC  

Yeah we aren't all children of God, but being gay isn't a sin. Doing gay stuff is. Saying being gay is sinful is like saying that having green eyes is sinful, or having red hair is sinful.

2020-10-27 19:32:19 UTC  

1st Corinthians 6:9 "Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality,"

2020-10-27 19:32:29 UTC  

"Nor men who practice homosexuality"

2020-10-27 19:32:42 UTC  

Practicing it is everything that comes with it, such as thoughts, actions, etc.

2020-10-27 19:33:20 UTC  

Men who practice it yes...

2020-10-27 19:33:24 UTC  

okay so control your thoughts and actions

2020-10-27 19:33:29 UTC  

So being gay....

2020-10-27 19:33:30 UTC  

but if you're tempted to have those thoughts

2020-10-27 19:33:31 UTC  

BRO

2020-10-27 19:33:36 UTC  

Because you have thoughts that you can't control

2020-10-27 19:33:39 UTC  

being gay = not sinful
doing gay stuff = sinul

2020-10-27 19:33:44 UTC  

wut

2020-10-27 19:33:44 UTC  

everyone can control their thoughts xD

2020-10-27 19:33:51 UTC  

exactly!

2020-10-27 19:34:00 UTC  

So therefor, you choose to be gay

2020-10-27 19:34:10 UTC  

being gay would mean being tempted to think gay things or do gay things

2020-10-27 19:34:15 UTC  

yes....

2020-10-27 19:34:21 UTC  

a very small percentage of people have a mental disability

2020-10-27 19:34:26 UTC  

which makes them attracted to the same sex

2020-10-27 19:34:26 UTC  

wait what

2020-10-27 19:34:38 UTC  

thats not sinful- they havent done anything wrong for having that

2020-10-27 19:34:46 UTC  

but if they act upon their temptations, they are sinning

2020-10-27 19:34:54 UTC  

So you're saying that it's not right, that's why it is a mental disibility?

2020-10-27 19:35:02 UTC  

it's not right?

2020-10-27 19:35:26 UTC  

> but if they act upon their temptations, they are sinning
@Risate yes, just like a man having attractions to a woman who isn't his wife

2020-10-27 19:35:35 UTC  

wait so

2020-10-27 19:35:39 UTC  

ur saying if ur attracted to a girl

2020-10-27 19:35:43 UTC  

then its sinful?

2020-10-27 19:35:59 UTC  

No, because that's the way God intended love between humans

2020-10-27 19:36:12 UTC  

its only sinful if you "stare at a pretty girl, in case you and she incur the same punishment."

2020-10-27 19:36:18 UTC  

book for Sirach i forget where

2020-10-27 19:36:30 UTC  

but being attracted is fine