it does good and is the equivilant to the UN without Russia and China

Erdogan is unpredictable

I personally don't like NATO's charter and how it has allowed its' members to take advantage of one another. I understand it's purpose during the Cold War, but I think the roots of corruption are so intrensic to it's creation that it needs to be completely rehashed.

The UN aint an alliance btw

@Equalibrium yeah they need to get rid of the swamp

If nato wants to do something good they should start preparing against Xi

I think there more focused on Russian aggression

That is a very tiny speck compared to China

My issue with the UN is that it is an independant body of non-elected officers trying to impose legislation without representation. I think we had a war about that, oh back in the 1700-1800's or there abouts.

They're going around and claiming other country's land

The US, South Korea, and Japan are dealing with China

its another cold war/arms race

Yeah the US wont be around for long with Joe

there will be more elections

Ik

But 4 yrs is a long time

not enough time for China to become a super power

... in some ways they already may be...

Heck look at their navy

After spending some time in Asia, I would define Russia and China as two grumpy brothers forced to rely on one another. They will cover each other's backs, while bickering the whole time. Russia wants all of Europe, China wants all of Asia, so for now they are not at cross purposes, and they "share ideals" so it's a passable working relationship.

They have a new stealth destroyer and are building 8 more

And they have new AShMs, and adding new ships 24/7

their sphere of influince is smaller than the US and prodomanatly economic not millitary

Thats kinda important as well

By 2032 i think China will be a military superpower

we have both economic and millitary dominance

I don't know they would have to have a lot of control in africa

to become a superpower

they have economic control but they would need to have more bases

they have 1

They wont have a lot more

Economically speaking, China is a superpower. It's just that their military development started much much later

But its catching up and fast

May seem like it, I’d be willing to bet the USA has classified much more advanced technologies, I once heard a saying that if they are telling you about a weapon, they probably have something better

Like the Master Chief

You can bet that if Russia and china have anti-satellite weapons, the US also broke the treaty and made them a long time ago. After all, treaties are just to reassure the public when it comes to an arms race.

The Star Wars program from the cold war was pretty cool.

The independent film "Iron Sky" pretty much covers how treaties work between countries.

At this point I would say the US would definitely win in a war with China or Russia. However it doesn't take long for an administration to ruin that possibility. If we fall, I believe we will fall from the inside

Just watched t-34 can confirm Russians are certified badasses