Russia's tanks are pretty good. They do have the largest amount of tanks but how many are fully operational is anyone's guess lmfao.

and China, well their latest attempt at doing a Stealth Aircraft are in mixed results, especially after during its 1st reveal flight of a recent attempt at theres one of the demonstrator aircraft alsmost totalled itself before it ever left the runway as it wasnt properly built in the factory and thourouly tested prior to the public reveal

China's stealth jets are paper tigers. Don't have much of an opinion on them.

the problem with russian tanks is that they're really only good in flat terrain

yeah

Didn't know that that's a factor for sure though.

unless the t14 has better gun depression

and europe relies on the US lol

they are great, but they require a very specific set of terrain as almost all of their designs for designed to storm Europes flatlands through Germany

T series tanks generally perform very poorly at defense, due to the extremely poor gun depression

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylZ8dT0_Eu8 this guy says it best when it comes to the best mbt (imo)

Russia attemped to fix this design and philosiphy with the T-14, but just like the SU-57 it has faced massive budget problems and very few have actually been made

That being said if a J-20 and an Su-57 get into a fight my money's on the Su-57.

and the T-14 may eventually just fall into the same role as the T-80, being used in Russia's heartland to defend the nations capital and never see the frontlines unless the battle turns that poorly

isnt the J-20 just a knockoff of the F-22?

nah its China's own homegrown design that seemingly has no design influences of other prevous aircraft

Kind of. It does have some influence but not really.

the J-20

fugly when compared to an F-22 or an SU-57

Truth

or even the YF-23

its honestly probably China's most capable stealth fighter, but like the F-22 it is a very aged aircraft, tho it suffers more from age than the F-22

iirc there was a 6th gen jet tested by the us military

is that true?

It's an ugly duckling that's a problem XD

6th gen fights have always been tested

Ooh y'all talking bout my Russian military😏

hell, 6th gen US fighters are supposed to be designed after the YF-23

Anyway in terms of 6th gen eh I don't think any exist right now. Though if they do it's a black program.

hell, the YF-23 is supposed to be alot better than the F-22. but due to cost issues the F-22 was ultimately chosen

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i think the YF-23 would be better for the USAF's doctrine

The F-22 was always going to beat the YF-23. Marketing your product and showing what it can do is paramount.

Lockheed went above and beyond. Northrop did not.

well, the 2 had the same amount of marketting, but the technology put into the YF-23 was ultimately too costly at the time of trials

But there was something missed. They didn't show its capabilities. Martin did.

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well they did, hell the YF-23 is supposed to have a faster supercruise mode than the F-22 does, and the F-22's is already one of the fastest out there

i think the YF-23 also had better stealth

it did

but again, was too expensive compaired to the F-22 at the time