Message from @Ender87

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2021-01-05 00:59:40 UTC  

USA vs Russia vs China!

2021-01-05 01:52:26 UTC  

You can scroll up a day or two for that

2021-01-05 02:24:40 UTC  

the biggest win would be to turn the other two against each other

2021-01-05 02:32:46 UTC  

Yup

2021-01-05 02:32:58 UTC  

Russia would control the skies

2021-01-05 03:25:49 UTC  

but china would have the funds

2021-01-05 03:44:42 UTC  

Yeah

2021-01-05 03:45:14 UTC  

Russia would rule the skies and AA area. They also have better tanks.

2021-01-05 03:45:23 UTC  

But as you said china has the funds.

2021-01-05 04:02:09 UTC  

can you say russia has the better tanks when they're all designed for different purposes?

2021-01-05 04:03:52 UTC  

well, the issue is that both China and Russia havent exactly properly entered into the realm of Stealth combat technologies and aircraft mounted cyberware suites, unlike the US which has heavily invested into the idea of both since the 70's and 80's

2021-01-05 04:04:32 UTC  

meaning that, even tho yes China and Russia would have the numbers advantage in the sky, that means nothing if you cant see where the enemy is thats downing your aircraft

2021-01-05 04:08:06 UTC  

for Russia, they over the past 10-20 years have faced economic troubles due to their exploits in many regions across the world that they can no longer sustain, which has bled into their progress into developing proper Stealth Aircraft, hell Russia's supposed big and powerfull SU-57 suffered from this as it was supposed to be co-developed and produced with India, but satisfaction of the project with India faltered massivly a couple of years ago so now the aircraft is in a state of limbo with less than 20 having been actually produced and not all the technologies for it being fully developed and it is likely the aircraft will be cancelled all together as currently Russia has to pay the brunt of its costs due to India pulling out of the deal.

2021-01-05 04:08:44 UTC  

Russia's tanks are pretty good. They do have the largest amount of tanks but how many are fully operational is anyone's guess lmfao.

2021-01-05 04:09:44 UTC  

and China, well their latest attempt at doing a Stealth Aircraft are in mixed results, especially after during its 1st reveal flight of a recent attempt at theres one of the demonstrator aircraft alsmost totalled itself before it ever left the runway as it wasnt properly built in the factory and thourouly tested prior to the public reveal

2021-01-05 04:11:03 UTC  

China's stealth jets are paper tigers. Don't have much of an opinion on them.

2021-01-05 04:11:18 UTC  

the problem with russian tanks is that they're really only good in flat terrain

2021-01-05 04:11:22 UTC  

yeah

2021-01-05 04:11:35 UTC  

Didn't know that that's a factor for sure though.

2021-01-05 04:11:40 UTC  

unless the t14 has better gun depression

2021-01-05 04:11:48 UTC  

and europe relies on the US lol

2021-01-05 04:12:00 UTC  

they are great, but they require a very specific set of terrain as almost all of their designs for designed to storm Europes flatlands through Germany

2021-01-05 04:12:47 UTC  

T series tanks generally perform very poorly at defense, due to the extremely poor gun depression

2021-01-05 04:13:16 UTC  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylZ8dT0_Eu8 this guy says it best when it comes to the best mbt (imo)

2021-01-05 04:13:34 UTC  

Russia attemped to fix this design and philosiphy with the T-14, but just like the SU-57 it has faced massive budget problems and very few have actually been made

2021-01-05 04:14:18 UTC  

That being said if a J-20 and an Su-57 get into a fight my money's on the Su-57.

2021-01-05 04:14:47 UTC  

and the T-14 may eventually just fall into the same role as the T-80, being used in Russia's heartland to defend the nations capital and never see the frontlines unless the battle turns that poorly

2021-01-05 04:15:07 UTC  

isnt the J-20 just a knockoff of the F-22?

2021-01-05 04:15:36 UTC  

nah its China's own homegrown design that seemingly has no design influences of other prevous aircraft

2021-01-05 04:16:00 UTC  

Kind of. It does have some influence but not really.

2021-01-05 04:16:05 UTC  

the J-20

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/722683196373991506/795868198931005450/iu.png

2021-01-05 04:16:24 UTC  

fugly when compared to an F-22 or an SU-57

2021-01-05 04:16:28 UTC  

Truth

2021-01-05 04:16:37 UTC  

or even the YF-23

2021-01-05 04:16:52 UTC  

its honestly probably China's most capable stealth fighter, but like the F-22 it is a very aged aircraft, tho it suffers more from age than the F-22

2021-01-05 04:17:27 UTC  

iirc there was a 6th gen jet tested by the us military

2021-01-05 04:17:30 UTC  

is that true?

2021-01-05 04:17:36 UTC  

It's an ugly duckling that's a problem XD

2021-01-05 04:17:37 UTC  

6th gen fights have always been tested

2021-01-05 04:17:49 UTC  

Ooh y'all talking bout my Russian military😏

2021-01-05 04:17:51 UTC  

hell, 6th gen US fighters are supposed to be designed after the YF-23