@DontBeAnIdgit in my mind though, it wouldn’t really matter because if I pulled my firearm, I’m fully intending on shooting to kill the person. Brandishing firearms as a deterrent in public can land you in sticky legal situations, and as we saw with the McCloskeys apparently you can’t do it on your own property 😒. But yeah, as a rule for conceal carry, your assailant shouldn’t know you have a gun until you draw it to shoot him, so ideally, he wouldn’t even have time to see the size of the gun before he’s already been dropped.

For home defense however......intimidation is part of the game

Particularly because it's harder to clean up the bodily fluids in your house where outside it will just wash away. Plus, if you use too big a caliber you may have holes to patch.

Hey they're just trying to relive the patching holes experience with their hand cannon as the pirates and Navy did all those years ago <:thinking:726878987837636698>

opinion time: AR-15 or AK-103?

Would M4 vs the AK-103

be better?

As AR-15 is a publicly available and bought rifle

Earth is now an Asteroid Free Zone.

Whereas the AK-103 is employed by militaries

I wish this beauty was mine, but I stole the photo from the NMLA Facebook page

But as with everything, both got advantages and disadvantages

ak-103 is also publicly available

Also has nations putting it into military service, funding and tech etc

just checked online and they're about $1200

Hmm aside, what would you choose? @N1br0c

idk

I find myself leaning towards the ak, but AR platform parts and ammo would be a bit more common in a "we-fucked-up" scenario

I guess I like the simplicity of the ak103

also:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Io7Zztghdno

maybe I'll just get both

heck it

I've noticed that asking for other's opinions just helps me figure out which choice I subconsciously wanted in the first place.

going for ak-103 first

How many rounds did they put through that ak?

~1400

" different platforms, one has military backing and another does not

But if you phrased it as M4.. I would of gone with that

Because I know one AR brand that is stupid, STUPID reliable

https://youtu.be/7Id_soYaAm8

Like, this thing PASSED their torture test

AR is a different gun than M4

AR lowers are a bit smaller than M4 lowers

Also, the 103 fires 7.62x39 which is a pretty common round

Same platforms though?

That is why I went with the switch there on the opinion, but you are right there, still too different

They feel the same but work differently @Luckay

I personally think that Russian AKs are outdated. The Russian Army is looking for another cartridge like the US is atm

More punch than 5.45 but smaller than 7.62

5.45 is a good round but the Russians have made way too many versions of the AK platform

Ah yes I have handled M4's but not the AR-15, would not have realised that, cheers @Lyte