either way, if you go into the Lovecraftian approaches, an infinite all powerful being logically *should* rip apart your sanity and the very matter you exist of if you should approach it

unless such a being retracts itself

(Christ)

-Christ is essentially a retraction of the Father so that the Father interacts with humanity indirectly but presently

I know I know, I just love referencing him when speaking about incomprehensibly alien beings

alien in the sense of strange to our existence

Also on this verse

*“…The LORD was with Judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron.” — Judges 1:19*

Isn't it saying that *judah* couldn't drive out the chariot soldiers?

not God?

Because I think the author of the book would be pretty strange if he was trying to make religious propaganda and his own propaganda called his god weak

and lastly *circumcision*

always a fun way to start your friday morning

discussing esoteric biblican circumcision habits 😂

Well this actually is an argument that has to be raised for a LOT of points in the bible from new testament to old

you see when the jews went off into Israel they had a set of rules to follow until the Messiah came

those rules can be called the laws of Leviticus or the law of Moses

Christ had this to say about these:

***“Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill.***

Christ actually spoke against what was considered to be traditional at the time

for example he told people not to excecute women for shagging men outside of their marriage

-which is punishable by death in the old testament

This brings me back to my gripe with context

you can't say that Christians should all kill gays because the bible says so 🙂

that was a law for a time that was specifically implemented to ensure the survival of the early Church (Israel and Judah)

so in terms of circumcision, these were for jews who upheld a specific string of laws and the circumcision was a brandmark that bore witness to these

after the laws were fulfilled, the circumcision was no longer needed

The New Testament goes through a good deal of effort trying to explain this in the later books which people like to forget because they aren't as exciting

@ThyDoctor That's me for now

the long and the short of this is ultimately that there is a explanation for everything

the reasons I am, for example, not a Muslim is because I find that there are *moral* issues in Islam

religion isn't science, it's a different field

That doesn't mean it's useless or incoherent, but it has its own place and context

C.S. Lewis had a good way of putting it

*“I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has risen: not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else.”*

It's a pleasure

The Christianity that consumerist capitalism has produced isn't the type that built modernity

there's a reason that these ideas were once venerated, while today they are a joke

But either way I have a none-marxist approach to socialism so that's another hot topic

You don't have to read Das Kapital to realise that exploitation is negative

to some extent I'd even say that socialism is *obvious* to an objective human being