discussing esoteric biblican circumcision habits 😂

Well this actually is an argument that has to be raised for a LOT of points in the bible from new testament to old

you see when the jews went off into Israel they had a set of rules to follow until the Messiah came

those rules can be called the laws of Leviticus or the law of Moses

Christ had this to say about these:

***“Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill.***

Christ actually spoke against what was considered to be traditional at the time

for example he told people not to excecute women for shagging men outside of their marriage

-which is punishable by death in the old testament

This brings me back to my gripe with context

you can't say that Christians should all kill gays because the bible says so 🙂

that was a law for a time that was specifically implemented to ensure the survival of the early Church (Israel and Judah)

so in terms of circumcision, these were for jews who upheld a specific string of laws and the circumcision was a brandmark that bore witness to these

after the laws were fulfilled, the circumcision was no longer needed

The New Testament goes through a good deal of effort trying to explain this in the later books which people like to forget because they aren't as exciting

@ThyDoctor That's me for now

the long and the short of this is ultimately that there is a explanation for everything

the reasons I am, for example, not a Muslim is because I find that there are *moral* issues in Islam

religion isn't science, it's a different field

That doesn't mean it's useless or incoherent, but it has its own place and context

C.S. Lewis had a good way of putting it

*“I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has risen: not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else.”*

It's a pleasure

The Christianity that consumerist capitalism has produced isn't the type that built modernity

there's a reason that these ideas were once venerated, while today they are a joke

But either way I have a none-marxist approach to socialism so that's another hot topic

You don't have to read Das Kapital to realise that exploitation is negative

to some extent I'd even say that socialism is *obvious* to an objective human being

which is why I have so many issues with Marx and Lenin attacking religion

the sort of person that socialism appeals to, the working class, is the most religious caste of society

Either way

to end off before I return to my work

1 Timothy 6:10

*For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.*

Someone invited me to talk about religion

Either way, add me as a friend if you want

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@Mnr. Buffel Yes

" The beast was given a mouth to utter proud words and blasphemies and to exercise its authority for forty-two months. 6 It opened its mouth to blaspheme God, and to slander his name and his dwelling place and those who live in heaven. 7 It was given power to wage war against God’s holy people and to conquer them. And it was given authority over every tribe, people, language and nation. 8 All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast—all whose names have not been written in the Lamb’s book of life, the Lamb who was slain from the creation of the world."

42 months till the next election