Message from @DeButcher
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Like I said, very little about Saints in the Bible
This is something Tradition has to handle
Tradition? Your statement is powerful. Saying tradition is not a good source. If its not in the bible then dont include it.
Bible is important than tradition
Sure, but we need tradition to interpret the Bible. This is the most stark difference between Protestant and Catholic: we give more credence to tradition.
It also doesn't say abortion is wrong in the Bible, but we know that to still be wrong
What the difference between Catholic and Jews during Jesus time then?
Both hold major importance to tradition
Jesus came to destroy Jewish tradition and insteas told to focus on the relationship with God.
So Bible is more important than tradition
> What the difference between Catholic and Jews during Jesus time then?
@DeButcher Not much
The Apostles still considered themselves Jews, and just followed Jesus' teaching
Wait so
You're saying Bible is more important because Jesus came to destroy Jewish culture, and because Jewish culture emphasized tradition, tradition is less important?
Just trying to understand where you're coming from
Yes they focus on tradition and laws and the pharisee made the life of Jews bad.
They adding things to the Torah and complicated it
I wouldn't say that Catholicism and Judaism are similar to compare, even though Christianity is certainly rooted in Judaism
Focus on what's important. Relationship with Christ
> I wouldn't say that Catholicism and Judaism are similar to compare, even though Christianity is certainly rooted in Judaism
@MKSmash
Im just talking bout the tradition aspect
I know, but you're connecting them with one thin strand (tradition); I don't find your claim very strong that tradition isn't as important because it is one of the things we have in common with Judaism
Tradition cant do you any good. Following it wont take you heaven. Following the word of God for sure will. So i urge you to read the bible. Bible is sufficient. It has all the things we need.
You're right, it does; however, it requires tradition to adequately interpret and "use" the Bible
If tradition is needed then it would be included in the bible
Sure
Let's take Genesis, in the Creation story. We obviously can't take this story seriously, with the earth being created in 7 "days". We need tradition to interpret how creation happened; for example, how Eve was created from Adam.
wdym not actually 7 days?
Time doesn't exist with God, he only exists in the eternal now.
There was no time to work with
God is the creator. He created time.
He could have created the universe in less than 1 second
true
He has infinite power
But He took his time and made it step by step process
exactly. I believe that He and Jesus built the world, and that God taught Jesus how to.
That's
Different😄
Where does that belief come from?
Read Gensis 1:5
@DrStrange77 is Mormon @MKSmash
correct, I am a Mormon.
Ah
I will confess, I know nothing about Mormon beliefs
@DeButcher I read it
The creation of night and day