Message from @MKSmash

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2020-11-08 23:52:17 UTC  

Yeah

2020-11-08 23:53:56 UTC  

Dont understand why the Catholic add things to Christianity.

2020-11-08 23:55:10 UTC  

Catholicism didn't add to Christianity, christianity added to Catholicism 😂

2020-11-08 23:55:45 UTC  

I don't know who did the rules, I just know official canonizations began in the 10th century

2020-11-08 23:58:37 UTC  

I meant add things in the religion

2020-11-09 00:02:54 UTC  

What did they add

2020-11-09 00:05:11 UTC  

> It doesn't
> Not much is said about saints in the bible, and the rules for establishing saints were developed over time
@MKSmash

2020-11-09 00:06:18 UTC  

Oh now I see what you mean
Idk
I guess to honor holy people that have helped the church

2020-11-09 00:06:29 UTC  

What's the problem with adding a system to honor then

2020-11-09 00:08:40 UTC  

What's the problem with adding a system to honor then

2020-11-09 00:08:50 UTC  

Nothing wrong to respecting saints. But yall tend to glorify these people

2020-11-09 00:09:05 UTC  

After all they are just humans

2020-11-09 00:10:36 UTC  

Sure
But humans are pretty important things

2020-11-09 00:12:10 UTC  

Eh no, only God is important

2020-11-09 00:14:04 UTC  

Well
We're created in the image and likeness of God
We are his most important creation, made for glorifying him

2020-11-09 00:14:21 UTC  

And earlier you talked about praying to saints. Just a heads they cant do anything to help your cause.

2020-11-09 00:15:01 UTC  

Read about Rich man and Lazarus

2020-11-09 00:15:06 UTC  

They can do just as much as my best friend or brother can

2020-11-09 00:15:22 UTC  

We can just appeal to God

2020-11-09 00:16:09 UTC  

Only people that living atm

2020-11-09 00:16:44 UTC  

Nope, they still can even though they are physically dead

2020-11-09 00:17:04 UTC  

Proof from the bible?

2020-11-09 00:17:58 UTC  

Like I said, very little about Saints in the Bible
This is something Tradition has to handle

2020-11-09 00:19:35 UTC  

Tradition? Your statement is powerful. Saying tradition is not a good source. If its not in the bible then dont include it.

2020-11-09 00:19:48 UTC  

Bible is important than tradition

2020-11-09 00:20:53 UTC  

Sure, but we need tradition to interpret the Bible. This is the most stark difference between Protestant and Catholic: we give more credence to tradition.

2020-11-09 00:21:33 UTC  

It also doesn't say abortion is wrong in the Bible, but we know that to still be wrong

2020-11-09 00:21:55 UTC  

What the difference between Catholic and Jews during Jesus time then?

2020-11-09 00:22:12 UTC  

Both hold major importance to tradition

2020-11-09 00:22:53 UTC  

Jesus came to destroy Jewish tradition and insteas told to focus on the relationship with God.

2020-11-09 00:23:11 UTC  

So Bible is more important than tradition

2020-11-09 00:23:21 UTC  

> What the difference between Catholic and Jews during Jesus time then?
@DeButcher Not much
The Apostles still considered themselves Jews, and just followed Jesus' teaching

2020-11-09 00:24:16 UTC  

Wait so
You're saying Bible is more important because Jesus came to destroy Jewish culture, and because Jewish culture emphasized tradition, tradition is less important?

2020-11-09 00:24:41 UTC  

Just trying to understand where you're coming from

2020-11-09 00:27:19 UTC  

Yes they focus on tradition and laws and the pharisee made the life of Jews bad.

2020-11-09 00:28:01 UTC  

They adding things to the Torah and complicated it

2020-11-09 00:28:41 UTC  

I wouldn't say that Catholicism and Judaism are similar to compare, even though Christianity is certainly rooted in Judaism

2020-11-09 00:28:55 UTC  

Focus on what's important. Relationship with Christ

2020-11-09 00:29:28 UTC  

> I wouldn't say that Catholicism and Judaism are similar to compare, even though Christianity is certainly rooted in Judaism
@MKSmash
Im just talking bout the tradition aspect

2020-11-09 00:31:58 UTC  

I know, but you're connecting them with one thin strand (tradition); I don't find your claim very strong that tradition isn't as important because it is one of the things we have in common with Judaism

2020-11-09 00:35:08 UTC  

Tradition cant do you any good. Following it wont take you heaven. Following the word of God for sure will. So i urge you to read the bible. Bible is sufficient. It has all the things we need.