They're in the Bible but ok

objectively you can conclude that based on what is most beneficial for humans to exist.

Well, technically yes.
God is the source of knowing what is right and wrong.
Without Him, there’s not really a definite standard for what is good or bad

god is the source... lol

"Hey can I ask you guys why you believe in Christianity."

"Lol you think God is responsible for anything?"

It is not beneficial is a blanket epistemically descriptive statement. You have not provided an ontological backbone to why it is wrong. Only Christianity can provide that foundation for why it is wrong to murder. It is wrong to murder because humans are made in God's image and we do not have absolute authority over one another's life.

If God is creator of the universe then yes he is the source

Nuro acted like I was gonna be toxic

A humans right to life is granted not by a god but simply by having sentience. We know pain, and to inflict pain is wrong.

god doesnt need to tell us that.

https://www.proginosko.com/docs/knowledge_and_theism.html
This coupled with the historicity of the Resurrection of Jesus.

thats my standing

Yes He does

He made the World so of course He does lol

But how do u know it wrong.

@Smash Boy And by foundation I'm sure you mean more so the context as to why certain rules were laid forth by revelation, aye?

You know its wrong to hurt others because you know what pain is.

That's how I interpreted you at the meaar

Sentience is what does that.

mirror neurons

And its painful because of how God made us, and we know it's wrong because of what He told us

You miss the point. You once again cannot provide an ontological grounds for which you condemn that which you label as 'wrong' apart from the biblical worldview. It is wrong to murder because we have innate knowledge of God which has instill a value to value and respect image bearers which we are equal to as humans and disrespecting that is a violation of that value.

If you needed a god to tell you thats wrong, well... maybe they did back then.

i value humans not because god told me to, but because i value myself.

God doesn't need to "tell us", He writes that down in our core of our being and we act in that way.

God makes the Universe.

God sets the rules for the Universe.

All in the Universe reflects those rules.

Snobbish monkey 10 epochs later attributes it to pure chance.

Also called conscience

none of what you guys think comes from god " has " to come from god objectively.

I understand we will not agree here

thats fine.

No it does

That is vicious circular reasoning. You cannot ground morality solely by your decree to arbitrarily value yourself.

What do you mean. Explain

Because He made the rules that allows for that to be observed

Stop acting all "agree to disagree" because you're stubborn

God wound the clock, and the clock ticks accordingly

im arguing with too many people 😄

Thanks guys.

Lol

"Has to come" is worded very wrongly here. Morality *necessarily* is a consequence by virtue of God's existence. Only because He exists that you may have a sense of morality.

"Thanks guys" For what? You ignored all our points and we got nowhere.