If Christianity didn't start with Peter and the Apostles then all Christianity is false as it has no structure or origin that can have any claim to teaching authority.

Jesus said to go make believers of all men, that upon this rock (Peter) I will build my church. Binding and loosing, forgiving sins, baptizing, those who reject you reject Me, etc.

Also, if Peter didn't have the authority of the Pope then that means we need to still be practicing the bulk of Jewish law as Jesus himself did not abolish it.
How many Christians follow ALL of the laws from the Old Testament? It is the Catholic church that decided which things were still binding and which were not.

It was the church that complied with the Bible, changed dietary restrictions, and taught believers what things were true and what things were false.

You cannot hold the Bible to be true without leaning of the Authority of the Catholic church which authoritatively declared it as such.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqLBeCmyaKY -Did the Emperor Constantine found the Catholic Church?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWR2fnRw2Eo - Why Should I Be Catholic?

If it's offered as a cheap alternative for individuals that can't afford it, they'll simply tank the prices in order to defeat their competition, in this case the Private health sector, absolutely Rockefeller in nature.

The cornering of the market then lowering their standards

You can still hold the Bible to be true without the authority of the Catholic Church because yes they are the oldest denomination but the authority of the Bible has never come from the Catholic Church, rather it has come from the apostles including Paul, and Jesus.

On making the comment about it being "the oldest", I was using that as an example of how certain atheists like to paint it, "if there's such an argument about Christian doctrine with the oldest one in comparison to new ones, how can any of it be trusted", I was quoting a talking point that I don't share.

@Danos Dawn Dachshund christianity didn't start with peter, it started with Christ

"rather it has come from the apostles including Paul, and Jesus."- who were the leaders of the Catholic church. And the Bible was compiled long after them. There were many different writings and it was the Church who decided which writings were Canon and which were not and declared that the Bible was the word of God.

Correct. Jesus created the Catholic church by instituting Peter as the first Pope.

No he didnt

Jesus hated religion

Yes the Catholic Church did play a huge role in this

No I didn't try...he actually hated religion

Catholicism is just another version of Judaism

Matthew 23

Anyways

Giving to much power to one man(pope)

No, he literally did not. Go read the scriptures. Go read early Christain history.

Religion is man-made

The Pope has very little power. And God created religion.

Christianity is technically not a religion because it was not made by man

@Danos Dawn Dachshund I legit just showed you scripture

Have a relationship with Christ

The whole chapter

8 “Don’t let anyone call you ‘Rabbi,’ for you have only one teacher, and all of you are equal as brothers and sisters.[d] 9 And don’t address anyone here on earth as ‘Father,’ for only God in heaven is your Father. 10 And don’t let anyone call you ‘Teacher,’ for you have only one teacher, the Messiah. 11 The greatest among you must be a servant. 12 But those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted.

13 “What sorrow awaits you teachers of religious law and you Pharisees. Hypocrites! For you shut the door of the Kingdom of Heaven in people’s faces. You won’t go in yourselves, and you don’t let others enter either.[e]

^ is legit talking about saying others won't go into heaven

But again

This isn't for debate

This channel is for discussing not debating.

I can understand the reasoning to some degree of why they have a pope. to act in some manner as an impartial judge to ensure that different actions of churches and different regions are not painting scripture with cultural preference in those regions.

Got in trouble last time for it but y'all in here rampant with it

Calling out Religious leaders who abused their power is not hating religion..

LOl sorry I can't help myself somtimes

I will get off my soap box for now and go to bed good night

It's late where I'm at as well. Later.

The whole chapter is about religion and how he hates it.

How he doesn't approve of people saying others aren't going to heaven when they follow HIS ONLY TWO rules to get in

And yeah imma get off and try and hope more that biden don't get in

@TwoWeapons On that, I think Jesus saying that aggravated the Pharisees, as they considered themselves the arbiters of God's law, Jesus happened to put them in their place, and they didn't like that.

No that's for the specific versus the whole chapter and more explain how he hates it