Message from @isoboto

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2020-12-20 07:12:02 UTC  

I know

2020-12-20 07:12:41 UTC  

ha. or maybe the sin is not accepting forgiveness itself

2020-12-20 07:13:07 UTC  

reminds me of the drowning man who refused to take the helping hands lol 😂

2020-12-20 07:13:09 UTC  

Baptism by water does nothing to cleanse you of your sins

2020-12-20 07:13:48 UTC  

i meant, as in the "original sin"

2020-12-20 07:13:50 UTC  

No the sin is “blaspheming against the Holy Spirit” however most people don’t even know what this means

2020-12-20 07:13:55 UTC  

Yeah, that's a great analogy of purposely rejecting God.

2020-12-20 07:14:18 UTC  

planning a (failed) coup against God is one 😂

2020-12-20 07:14:24 UTC  

Why eles did he die on the cross?

2020-12-20 07:14:51 UTC  

This may very well be the case, I wasn’t there at the time but I’ll know when I get to Heaven I think

2020-12-20 07:15:01 UTC  

I already stated this

2020-12-20 07:15:20 UTC  

i mean, we never actually know about it? the bible (at least the version i've), don't say the specific about the original sin aside from "the apple"

2020-12-20 07:15:33 UTC  

By this, I know I’m going to Heaven but even when I’m there I might not figure out all the details

2020-12-20 07:15:53 UTC  

No Jesus cleaned out dirty hands

2020-12-20 07:15:54 UTC  

Please reference which message lol too many sent

2020-12-20 07:16:01 UTC  

To open the gates of heaven. Heaven wasn't open for business before Jesus opened it. He also opened them for all the "heroes" of the old testament waiting in "limbo" (abraham's bossom).

2020-12-20 07:16:26 UTC  

what do you do when you come to heaven, though? what do you become? a mindless spirit worshipping god? or free? how does heaven even works?

2020-12-20 07:16:41 UTC  

Wait are you catholic?

2020-12-20 07:18:07 UTC  

*if u love somebody, set them free*

2020-12-20 07:18:28 UTC  

Is that why Elijah was tooken to heaven

2020-12-20 07:18:29 UTC  

this was to an example somebody gave me that by dying jesus was paying our sins for us. my knowledge is that you can only go to heaven if you accept the saving grace, anyhow. and so jesus died only for some, while others (maybe, like me) that doesn't think jesus died for us is just still "kill" jesus anyway

2020-12-20 07:18:42 UTC  

This is a brilliant question lol. It’s something I have thought about too. We don’t know what form we will necessarily take but we know that it will be perfect. This may mean that it will be something like what Adam and Eve originally were. Immortal and perfect with full potential. That said we know that we will be able to meet with other and that we will have homes. We know that we will be comforted and that we will be safe. Our existences will serve to glorify God through what we do. We will also likely literally praise God.

2020-12-20 07:18:54 UTC  

no. i'm religiously homeless. i believe in a creator but not christian god specifically

2020-12-20 07:19:30 UTC  

Sounds like your trying to buy a gift and are worried about buying the best gift. But your parents will be happy with the gift just because the gift is giving by their son.

2020-12-20 07:19:39 UTC  

i was thinking of more the "pandora box" effect. maybe it's something we released in the perfect world god creates and thus we must pay

2020-12-20 07:19:48 UTC  

Oh now I understand you a bit more

2020-12-20 07:20:29 UTC  

🚨 IT WAS NOT AN APPLE 🚨

2020-12-20 07:20:30 UTC  

The bible never said an apple

2020-12-20 07:20:35 UTC  

That is actually important

2020-12-20 07:20:52 UTC  

It’s very important actually

2020-12-20 07:20:54 UTC  

it sounds wrong, to me though. it's something i struggle with a lot. god is selfish/narcissistic if he creates us only to worship him.

2020-12-20 07:21:07 UTC  

We know that some heroes were directly admitted into heaven. Some "heroes" went to "abraham's bossom"... I read something called "the harrowing of hell", it's where Jesus went in those three days before the resurrection.

2020-12-20 07:21:10 UTC  

This is false, God did create a perfect world

2020-12-20 07:21:21 UTC  

i don't think so. some gifts make them more happy than others

2020-12-20 07:21:35 UTC  

Do think purgatory is real?

2020-12-20 07:21:48 UTC  

yeah, no. it's not an apple

2020-12-20 07:22:01 UTC  

I know

2020-12-20 07:22:48 UTC  

We first have to establish one thing. God doesn’t have to abide by the same rules we do, that said, God created us for a purpose. What I mean by worship is that God, from what I know, created us to walk WITH Him. By fulfilling this purpose we are worshipping God

2020-12-20 07:22:49 UTC  

First of all satan/lucifer have seen the power and glory of God. He should have know that he should not mess with God. There was 0% chance for him to overthrow God. But pride got in his way.

2020-12-20 07:22:54 UTC  

Do you get me?

2020-12-20 07:23:43 UTC  

Ok, God created the world perfectly. Free will was also perfect. We chose to screw up the world. We agree on this right?