Message from @LuckyPuffy

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2021-01-02 19:55:47 UTC  

nationalism is bad, patriotism is good, agreed?

2021-01-02 19:55:57 UTC  

@Simpnautica please define that term

2021-01-02 19:56:02 UTC  

Stalin, Lenin, Mao, they all had interpretations of socialism.

2021-01-02 19:56:08 UTC  

I just see it as an informal way of governing
Not exactly a good form of government though

2021-01-02 19:56:18 UTC  

i mean the google definition. no private property

2021-01-02 19:56:29 UTC  

Yeah...

2021-01-02 19:56:47 UTC  

that's not good

2021-01-02 19:56:51 UTC  

ok fair enough. social democracy seems to be a ok system

2021-01-02 19:57:01 UTC  

Yeah, it actually works

2021-01-02 19:57:08 UTC  

It never is, because it devolves into factional warring

2021-01-02 19:57:09 UTC  

i think we should have more public stuff, but also keep the private stuff

2021-01-02 19:57:15 UTC  

nah she/he is saying yeah to disagreeing with it

2021-01-02 19:57:26 UTC  

or are you not?

2021-01-02 19:57:45 UTC  

There's a saying that socialism redistributes what capitalism makes

2021-01-02 19:57:52 UTC  

I can see that.

2021-01-02 19:58:07 UTC  

Oh hello chaz, haven't seen you in a while

2021-01-02 19:58:09 UTC  

Which means that most socialist states were actually state capitalist.

2021-01-02 19:58:14 UTC  

Like China is today.

2021-01-02 19:58:29 UTC  

you agree with pure socialism though?

2021-01-02 19:58:33 UTC  

Yeah, because socialism eventually runs out of other peoples money

2021-01-02 19:58:48 UTC  

That’s literally the point. A cashless society.

2021-01-02 19:59:06 UTC  

without cash then how do you evaluate the cost of something

2021-01-02 19:59:07 UTC  

@¿ılı˥? hey, also, love your name

2021-01-02 19:59:10 UTC  

But where does a cashless society leave us?

2021-01-02 19:59:28 UTC  

Thx

2021-01-02 19:59:29 UTC  

That’s the idea, we don’t know. We’ll only have to find out if we did actually try it out.

2021-01-02 19:59:46 UTC  

Running out of money to steal is different than eliminating physical money

2021-01-02 19:59:53 UTC  

Usually the value of our money is determined by gold
Correct me if I'm wrong 😂

2021-01-02 20:00:07 UTC  

The gold standard sadly no longer exists

2021-01-02 20:00:09 UTC  

😔

2021-01-02 20:00:16 UTC  

but answer tho... how do you determine the cost of something without cash?

2021-01-02 20:00:42 UTC  

who decides what is valuable

2021-01-02 20:00:54 UTC  

Hmmmm.... hmmm... you actually seem to be right. I don’t know.

2021-01-02 20:00:55 UTC  

you could trade but money is standardized which is why it's useful

2021-01-02 20:00:59 UTC  

The closest thing I can think of that would replace money is back to the classic bartering system

2021-01-02 20:01:01 UTC  

you are given, at least this is how it worked when it worked, everything you need, and a kinda allowence of purchasing power equall to everyone elses

2021-01-02 20:01:09 UTC  

That’s what I was thinking, too.

2021-01-02 20:01:15 UTC  

But money is technically part of that bartering system

2021-01-02 20:01:28 UTC  

But it’s not cash, it’s salt!

2021-01-02 20:01:40 UTC  

money has so many uses. it's not just a medium of exchange

2021-01-02 20:01:43 UTC  

Or apples! Or bottle caps! Or whatever else you think has value.