that's kind of marxism too though
Exactly!
it's theory based upon the idea that it will somehow develop eventually
Nah, Marxism has lower stage socialism, higher state socialism and communism, which are all made by the help of a state.
Marxism has a plan to replace what's there with tyranny
Anarchism is just straight to communism
Without socialism
Alright I am going to say the crazy: Do you think that the world is WAY better off if communism did not exsist at all?
yes but my point is no marxists know the socialism they advocate for
they base it upon the theory that capitalism was developed when it was implemented so will socialism
I like to imagine a world where communism did not exsist at all.
The world is a better place if no communists or socialists existed, *unequivocally*
Social democracy is a good start to fix capitalism.
@🐦Lt.SEC🐝 if you look at it as marx wrote it, for the next 300 years or so, definately, after that, I do not know
Look at Sweden, Finland, they’re pretty developed with their social democracy
Me to. I am kinda clueless also.
Right now, nationalism and populism are winning, not socialism. Socialism will be eventually tried again, just that not today.
so you disagree with pure socialism?
nationalism is bad, patriotism is good, agreed?
@Simpnautica please define that term
Stalin, Lenin, Mao, they all had interpretations of socialism.
I just see it as an informal way of governing Not exactly a good form of government though
i mean the google definition. no private property
Yeah...
that's not good
ok fair enough. social democracy seems to be a ok system
Yeah, it actually works
It never is, because it devolves into factional warring
i think we should have more public stuff, but also keep the private stuff
nah she/he is saying yeah to disagreeing with it
or are you not?
There's a saying that socialism redistributes what capitalism makes
I can see that.
Oh hello chaz, haven't seen you in a while
Which means that most socialist states were actually state capitalist.
Like China is today.
you agree with pure socialism though?
Yeah, because socialism eventually runs out of other peoples money
That’s literally the point. A cashless society.
without cash then how do you evaluate the cost of something
