I can see that.

Oh hello chaz, haven't seen you in a while

Which means that most socialist states were actually state capitalist.

Like China is today.

you agree with pure socialism though?

Yeah, because socialism eventually runs out of other peoples money

That’s literally the point. A cashless society.

without cash then how do you evaluate the cost of something

@¿ılı˥? hey, also, love your name

But where does a cashless society leave us?

Thx

That’s the idea, we don’t know. We’ll only have to find out if we did actually try it out.

Running out of money to steal is different than eliminating physical money

Usually the value of our money is determined by gold
Correct me if I'm wrong 😂

The gold standard sadly no longer exists

😔

but answer tho... how do you determine the cost of something without cash?

who decides what is valuable

Hmmmm.... hmmm... you actually seem to be right. I don’t know.

you could trade but money is standardized which is why it's useful

The closest thing I can think of that would replace money is back to the classic bartering system

you are given, at least this is how it worked when it worked, everything you need, and a kinda allowence of purchasing power equall to everyone elses

That’s what I was thinking, too.

But money is technically part of that bartering system

But it’s not cash, it’s salt!

money has so many uses. it's not just a medium of exchange

Or apples! Or bottle caps! Or whatever else you think has value.

Well technically currency is a representation of our labor and if we just evenly distribute the worth of your labor even though some have worked harder and therefore earn more, than people ain't gonna like that and it just won't function. Might work with robots tho

But the more you have if something, the less valuable it is

Pinecones aren't a valuable currency

I would use pinecones in my own little society hehehe

They could be if we gave them the status of currency

pinecones are really common so the value would be really low

like 1k pinecones is a dollar

if it was gold it would be different

That’s a good way to determine value. The rarer it is, the more value it has. It’s actually fair.

or copper

some socialists like to argue labour points and they buy commodities with this. however this still doesn't take into account of scarcity without weird measurement systems

That's true, and that's why people need to freaking learn what inflation is

Labor points is just rebranded cash

you have to predict your outcome every time... it's just weird