Message from @LuckyPuffy

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2021-01-02 19:58:29 UTC  

you agree with pure socialism though?

2021-01-02 19:58:33 UTC  

Yeah, because socialism eventually runs out of other peoples money

2021-01-02 19:58:48 UTC  

That’s literally the point. A cashless society.

2021-01-02 19:59:06 UTC  

without cash then how do you evaluate the cost of something

2021-01-02 19:59:07 UTC  

@¿ılı˥? hey, also, love your name

2021-01-02 19:59:10 UTC  

But where does a cashless society leave us?

2021-01-02 19:59:28 UTC  

Thx

2021-01-02 19:59:29 UTC  

That’s the idea, we don’t know. We’ll only have to find out if we did actually try it out.

2021-01-02 19:59:46 UTC  

Running out of money to steal is different than eliminating physical money

2021-01-02 19:59:53 UTC  

Usually the value of our money is determined by gold
Correct me if I'm wrong 😂

2021-01-02 20:00:07 UTC  

The gold standard sadly no longer exists

2021-01-02 20:00:09 UTC  

😔

2021-01-02 20:00:16 UTC  

but answer tho... how do you determine the cost of something without cash?

2021-01-02 20:00:42 UTC  

who decides what is valuable

2021-01-02 20:00:54 UTC  

Hmmmm.... hmmm... you actually seem to be right. I don’t know.

2021-01-02 20:00:55 UTC  

you could trade but money is standardized which is why it's useful

2021-01-02 20:00:59 UTC  

The closest thing I can think of that would replace money is back to the classic bartering system

2021-01-02 20:01:01 UTC  

you are given, at least this is how it worked when it worked, everything you need, and a kinda allowence of purchasing power equall to everyone elses

2021-01-02 20:01:09 UTC  

That’s what I was thinking, too.

2021-01-02 20:01:15 UTC  

But money is technically part of that bartering system

2021-01-02 20:01:28 UTC  

But it’s not cash, it’s salt!

2021-01-02 20:01:40 UTC  

money has so many uses. it's not just a medium of exchange

2021-01-02 20:01:43 UTC  

Or apples! Or bottle caps! Or whatever else you think has value.

2021-01-02 20:02:01 UTC  

Well technically currency is a representation of our labor and if we just evenly distribute the worth of your labor even though some have worked harder and therefore earn more, than people ain't gonna like that and it just won't function. Might work with robots tho

2021-01-02 20:02:02 UTC  

But the more you have if something, the less valuable it is

2021-01-02 20:02:33 UTC  

Pinecones aren't a valuable currency

2021-01-02 20:02:53 UTC  

I would use pinecones in my own little society hehehe

2021-01-02 20:03:24 UTC  

They could be if we gave them the status of currency

2021-01-02 20:03:46 UTC  

pinecones are really common so the value would be really low

2021-01-02 20:03:58 UTC  

like 1k pinecones is a dollar

2021-01-02 20:04:08 UTC  

if it was gold it would be different

2021-01-02 20:04:08 UTC  

That’s a good way to determine value. The rarer it is, the more value it has. It’s actually fair.

2021-01-02 20:04:12 UTC  

or copper

2021-01-02 20:04:29 UTC  

some socialists like to argue labour points and they buy commodities with this. however this still doesn't take into account of scarcity without weird measurement systems

2021-01-02 20:04:38 UTC  

That's true, and that's why people need to freaking learn what inflation is

2021-01-02 20:04:43 UTC  

Labor points is just rebranded cash

2021-01-02 20:04:46 UTC  

you have to predict your outcome every time... it's just weird

2021-01-02 20:05:05 UTC  

well there's no demand and supply in socialism so not really

2021-01-02 20:05:08 UTC  

I didn't know about inflation till recently and figured out why the if money grew on trees it would be as valuable as air

2021-01-02 20:05:20 UTC  

all work is not equal either

2021-01-02 20:05:25 UTC  

Inflation is basically when a state prints money for no reason at all.