bush's aid got pretty pissy towards the end of our convo because i compared him to isis

If you don't trust them to be honorable or abide by their word, why would you trust them with real power?

"Words on paper" I'm sure the people who signed the new immigration acts said the same thing when they decided to change our founding interests of white men of good character

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@TMatthews Good point, but they already have that "power".

"look Miss, all i'm telling you is that my generation have failed to see what conservative men twice my senior have actually conserved. at this rate, and this is important for you to think about if you have any children, my unborn grandchildren and yours as well will have no future. If he's prepared to remove the cenotaph and the confederate plaque, then we will have nothing at this rate"
butthurt ensued after

i'm having a hard time seeing the difference between leftists and normie-cons at this point

@Kingfish He is legitimate. He cant inherit Spain. They were overthrown in 1830's in a revolution which installed the Oreanlists branch.

He is also the great great grandson of Queen Victoria

So in theory he could end up ruling Spain France and England.

Royalty means nothing without the power to rule. The power to rule makes its own justifications of legitimacy.

Alexander didn't let superstition or tradition or decrees keep him from the Persian throne.

@MrDefault one crown to rule them all? 🤔

@Perihelion - CA Alexander also died and his empire collapsed. He was the legitimate son of the King of Macedonia. So it was like he was some peasant revolutionary.

@Goose Habsburgs in the east Bourbons in the west, but who would rule the US 🤔 ?

Why would it matter if the monarchy of spain was overthrown, if he is still of the line that renounced all claims

No the Monarchy of France was overthrown.

but he still is of a line that renounced all legal claims

by that he wouldn't be able to claim either

Cite your source big guy

monarchy of France lost their way and abused their power <:sad:366743316475281408>

the revolution was a bad idea, but it was inevitable

citation: The treaty of Utrecht lmao

I'm assuming you're not gonna take the wiki

Yeah

Thats why he cant inherit Spain

lemme slow this down for you

He is of the branch of French successors.

Philip V renounced all claims to the FRENCH throne

he is of Philip V's line

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therefore

he has no claim to the French throne

Kingfish is correct but it really doesn't matter. France is not going to revert to monarchy in the foreseeable future.

I think if it's anyone it would be Henri d’Orléans

@Kingfish The crown is not the personal property of the King and thus he cannot alter the line of succession by abdication or renunciation.

Yes he literally can

he did

at the Treaty of Utrecht

@Kingfish Yeah that is invalid.

it happened