Message from @2Lazy2BeOriginal
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They did not have the victim mentality as they do now thanks to democrats
sure. thanks to politicians in general, not exclusively democrats
So let me explain why I donβt agree
i don't want more taxes to pay for someone else's public college
I think blacks would be more motivated when they are cheerful of the civil rights movement
Not necessarily, there may be a few bad apples of Republicans but democrats want more government interference of black america which has not helped, such as welfare
already too many people with college degrees. a bachelor's doesn't cut it in the job market anymore. you need a master's to get a well paying job.
if you give everyone a degree it will devalue even further
remember that republicans and democrats are the same until recently.
Well just because they have college doesnβt mean they will use it. Like 1/2 drop out
Free access to education doesnt = a free qualification @Nightenhelser
Also this is really interesting but Iβm gonna play uno with family. This was fun to talk about
College is over rated
You have to work to achieve the qualification
why would we give it to people who won't work for it
What?
So I donβt agree because universal healthcare is only going to increase taxes for Americans when we donβt want high taxes and not only that universal healthcare is not going to have better treatment than healthcare that you pay for because itβs going to be more common so there are going to be more people taken care of so itβs going to take a longer time for people to have appointments, procedures, etc. I have an anecdote which might not be as reliable but my English teacher served in the army for 20 years and he was qualified for free healthcare and this healthcare took him 14 months to set up an appointment so he had to go to his own doctor that he paid for it to actually do the procedureοΏΌ οΏΌ
won't that increase the amount of money we use in taxes to pay for those people
i'll refute on that. in vietnam we have A LOT of qualification and people with certificates, but not many succeeded. sometimes you don't have to "work" to earn the qualification. also, i'll add that in vietnam you've to pay for university/college anyway.
it won't be "free" its getting paid somehow
And about free education I donβt support that either because there are scholarships there are grants there is financial aid for people who want to have a higher education but cannot afford it and there are even scholarships for minorities and women so I donβt understand why we would need it to be free when we already have those advantages right in front of us as long as we work for them
Yes itβs why I donβt agree because it will raise taxes. Canada has free healthcare but it doesnβt mean the treatment is as luxurious and beneficial as healthcare that is paid for
oh i've heard horror stories of people waiting months for treatment and then they just come to US
Canadaβs healthcare is okay for something minor like a broken finger, for surgeries got better going to America
yup. loophole exists in any system. but the honest assumption that for university you can "earn" your qualification is not wholeheartedly true
@Nightenhelser I'm sure as an American you have parts of government spending you disagree with, if the money is your only problem with free access to education then simply cut the money from an area you have a fundamental reason to oppose
Also if I might ask are you an American or no?
curious but what perspective do you have? you're not an American?
Yea it could be useless or worse, end up with 50k in student debt
Space Force time 8)
How to get me to not donate to your group
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Nah im British sorry
no random image π funny, though
Oh okay thatβs alright. So can you explain your government and society to me? Like healthcare, taxes etc? I know virtually nothing of British government and societal structures
can you go to Oxford for free?
Thank you Ray π
I'M IN 2021 and nothing has changed
I didnβt delete it but I was about to lol
The one thing we need to eliminate the most to help minorities is the victim mentality where they are entitled to whatever they want just because of the color of their skin and because they take up less amount than the majority of America and this will help the poverty rates, this will help the family unit, and this will help the uplifting of certain communities when we need to uplift everybody to facilitate equalityοΏΌοΏΌ