So long as it doesn't become stuffy and self absorbed as you do well to warn us about

If one of your friends from highschool wouldn't be able to digest a line of rhetoric without further explanation - it's simply myopic and ineffective.

and weird.

Wanting to be on the inside of a joke is powerful appeal to curiosity

It's a great tool if used well

The alt-right tried that for over 3 years

how did that work out for them?

With great success I'd argue

The alt right is an utter failure 🤣

The fact they didn't have control over court system doesn't matter

their ideas are far more mainstream than before

This was always a marathon

that is their one success.

opening pandora's box

white identity is in the air

That's huge.

And even though we've made a semantic break with the alt right, it's undeniable that we share common roots. That means everything that's come out since 2016 meme war has been in part due to edgelord meme war spilling into normie space. The fact we don't have space imperium doesn't disprove its effect. When you look, the effect is everywhere and a lot of progress has been made meta politically.

Of course mistakes were made too

One of the worst things I notice is people who use too much internet lingo IRL

Sometimes when I talk to dissident people in real life, it feels like they're reading tweets out loud. Very unnerving

The whole idea of people being "extremely online" is definitely real in any radical political circle

Agreed.

Nothing more cringe inducing.

Think of gaming culture as a microcosm. In 1990 gaming culture was dominated by geeks who sucked at sports. By 2000 gaming was mainstream among youth but carried the stigma culturally. By 2010 gaming was mainstream and non gamers were unusual. Current year there are pro gamers and entire subculture of female chearleader equivalents. Gamers didn't have to go out of their way to become mainstream because what they were doing was inherently fun.

Is the dissident right inherently fun? I think so.

Let's not lose that fun loving spirit.

imo the only reason the altright accomplished anything is because many of the fundamental ideas are powerful and normal. The altrights stewardship was pitiful and misguided.

well said.

A solid core rotted from the outside inward.

To the degree the alt right was expression of populist movement it was successful. To degree it was a led organization, it failed.

@Perihelion - CA the alt-right's only accomplishment was shouting it's ideas from the rooftops - if it was "populist" it would have a populous behind it. it doesn't.

But.. those ideas are powerful, which is why groups like ours have a chance.

Why would you want it to be populist when the populous is brainwashed?

it accomplished an opening of the pandora's box of White identity, did a fair bit of bringing that to the forefront

A very powerful psychological warfare technique to disarm a leaderless movement is to credit leadership in the media to an incompetent or extreme leader. Since the movement doesn't itself know who is in charge they will simultaneously gravitate to the named leader and fragment in opposition to him. This was used successfully many times by USA against insurgencies

@ExternalPepsi Because I want to win, dude. Do you think we are going to change the world with 1000 members on a discord server? Get real.

in struts Whiskey Dick @Perihelion - CA

@Papa Pizzagate I don't expect that. That's why you lead by example and TEACH the normies, not join them. That's what you believe in isn't it?

More or less, yeah.

Ok then.

"the normies" is such a strange mindset to me at this point.