one today

The conference was great earlier

Is there another one tomorrow? @The Modern Conservative

I think they run 19-22 through Tuesday

Awesome, today was energetic and the speakers were great especially Dan Borgino

Yeah, him and Tatum

Yes more conferences should take place we need everyone on board

Hello

Welcome @Virulence how are you doing?

Good, just finished reading Ride the Tiger by Julius Evola

How are you? @koolguy18000

Great @Virulence making pasta for a late lunch, sounds like a good book

Yeah, if you’re interested in esoteric fascism, give it a read

Okay, @Virulence I like to read books bashing the left and calling them out for their communist/ socialist ways

Same, and I could say the same about books critiquing capitalism

Okay, capitalism isn't perfect but it is 1 million times better than communism / socialism/ Marxism that the democrats are "attempting" to do and they got caught

Sure, but it still is utter trash

Much, much better alternatives exist

Capitalism is antithetical to honest social conservatism

GG @Virulence, you just advanced to level 1!

Any traditional social order is a limit to the process of commodification, to profit, and to the capitalistic growth imperative, so it is obvious that any sort of traditions would be culturally constructed as barriers in an expression of capitalism in its late stages. The relegation of our fundamental values to the private world results in the death of the meaning which they hold.

It has led to the perversion of Conservatism into an impotent ideology that is basically the preservation of the “traditional” form of liberal values and individualism.

Even communism hasn’t destroyed conservatism as much as capitalism has, and that’s saying something

But free market capitalism allows independence and socialism is destroying countries economies and that is actively what the democrats are trying to do now

@Virulence

Capitalism does not at all value independence; whatever market self-sufficiency that values subsidiarity and can persist on a local level among communities has long been replaced in most of the West. This is because capitalism is founded on the notion of endless growth.

Some free markets can exist outside of the realm of liberalism and capitalism... However, many things simply can’t be left to the “invisible hand” if you want them to function properly.

For instance, socially conservative values

Interesting, i am not going to read the book because it looks like it is very facist

Why is that a bad thing?

You don’t have to start with Evola btw

There are plenty of other places a beginner could, and frankly should start at

Actually in a free market it is best to leave it to the “invisible “ hand. History has taught us the more the government tries to influence/control the market, the more unpredictable the market becomes. Government interference nearly always ends poorly

I agree, but that’s not the case for everything, particularly social conservatism.

GG @Virulence, you just advanced to level 2!

Are you a social conservative? @Free2Think

And history has also taught us socialism doesn’t work the way it’s “sold” to work...ever. The only class eliminated is the middle class. You wind up with a super elite ruling class and a very poor class that can barely survive. Private ownership is eliminated, on both an individual and corporate level.

GG @Free2Think, you just advanced to level 8!

I haven’t advocated socialism, you are straw manning

I’m a conservative that beloved in completely free and open markets. One who has witnessed the real world destruction both socialism and communism have reeked on this world for over a century.

Completely free markets, as in, you don’t believe in any government intervention?