Why is that a bad thing?

You don’t have to start with Evola btw

There are plenty of other places a beginner could, and frankly should start at

Actually in a free market it is best to leave it to the “invisible “ hand. History has taught us the more the government tries to influence/control the market, the more unpredictable the market becomes. Government interference nearly always ends poorly

I agree, but that’s not the case for everything, particularly social conservatism.

GG @Virulence, you just advanced to level 2!

Are you a social conservative? @Free2Think

And history has also taught us socialism doesn’t work the way it’s “sold” to work...ever. The only class eliminated is the middle class. You wind up with a super elite ruling class and a very poor class that can barely survive. Private ownership is eliminated, on both an individual and corporate level.

GG @Free2Think, you just advanced to level 8!

I haven’t advocated socialism, you are straw manning

I’m a conservative that beloved in completely free and open markets. One who has witnessed the real world destruction both socialism and communism have reeked on this world for over a century.

Completely free markets, as in, you don’t believe in any government intervention?

And I have to agree with koolguy, free markets definitely allows and indeed promote independence. Government involvement should begin and end at ensuring free trade balances and safe working and environmental conditions...to an extent. The more regulation, the less growth. Less growth, less jobs.

Free markets ultimately lead to the formation of a hierarchy based on economic achievement, a “meritocracy” as you may call it. This does not guarantee that people with socially conservative morals are in charge of society, which is why a totally free market is an untenable form of social organization.

Working for achievement is essential, working for "Handouts" is not America it is other countries

What “wins out” in the free market, if it isn’t controlled sufficiently, is what has ideological hegemony, what controls the opinion-making sectors of society.

@Virulence There is no society at all when socialism dictates what citizens can and cannot do and that is anti-American

Besides, the commodification of culture and the distraction of the populace through the propagation of materialistic attitudes is a problem for holistic social worldviews like conservatism. Capitalism seeks to homogenize the world into consumer units where you purchase your identity and everything becomes commodified. Only notions of higher meaning that cannot be satisfied by an economy of desire and fake, individualistic needs are deemed to be these barriers.

@koolguy18000 my guy I’m not advocating socialism

Okay, President Trump is a nationalist and that is why the democrats are ao jealous of him @Virulence

The liberal notion of democratic freedom, coupled with industrialization, prevails to such an extent that we end up identifying with the ideology of the State, which is predicated upon the concepts of consumerism, homogeneity, and the destruction of transcendent value. Understand that we’re living under a tyranny unlike socialism, but rather one where the lines between the private and public sector are being blurred and corporations control the culture.

@koolguy18000 how is that relevant

It is relevant because Americans should have safe borders and do what we want to do as long as we abide by the Constitution, communism/ socialism are the enemy of freedom and prosperity, nobody benefits from that ideology

Bruh are you listening to what I’m even saying

Yeah but i don't agree with the ideology you are speaking, it is "pure fantasy" it's not how the real world works with all due respect @Virulence

@Virulence The only thing you are spewing are lies with all due respect

The truth is not what you are saying at all, The future "could" look like that Mabye But now it is time for you to accept the facts

Is that so? Then why won’t you provide some counter arguments to dismantle my “lies”?

Yes, you are a blinded Democrat for sure almost time to go

Or are you to unprepared to engage in discourse about the future of conservatism because you just want to distract yourself with whatever Charlie Kirk tells you to.

I am not a democrat, I am not a socialist, I am not a progressive, I am not a liberal. I am a social conservative, nothing else.

When have you ever heard a democrat say the things I have said? Democrats are even more conditioned into the system than mainstream republicans

GG @Virulence, you just advanced to level 3!

hmmm well the future is locking up China Joe and crazy Harris and Dominion poll watchers, journalists, they are the enemy to Freedom

That is the truth, time for Patriots to stand up for America and push back against their failures

I agree that they are, but there’s no reason as to why you should expect that that will happen if you fight alongside movements like TP USA

Since the election fraud, how many events has TP USA had?

Other than the one that Charlie Kirk drove to 15 minutes away from his house

Are they standing up for Trump? For conservative values?

They should host more events and they will attracts millions of people

But they won’t, they only are doing what they must to gain more donors and votes for the GOP establishment.

Yes @Virulence They are standing up for Freedom and prosperity, every country should condemn what is going on when Congress is so corrupt tbey can't even pass a bill