Yeah, as a form of resource distribution because we've either democratically decided it, or an authoritarian imposed it. Sometimes both.

I wish to abolish taxation eventually too y'know

"Resource redistribution".

does not spur an economy

Literally can but okay

Yeah because. Simply regorgitating wealth around and creating no more wealth sure helps everyone.

what grows an economy is a market system that creates new products and services that serves the consumers

I mean

socialism worked so well in venezuela didnt it

where the money is worthless and people eat dogs

VENEZUELA WAS CAPITALIST HAHAHHAHAHA

What gets in the way of people. Is always government.
Market is established through voluntary relations between individuals, and should be kept as such.

no they were not

Love the venezuela memes

not at all

Yes they were

Literally had privately owned business

https://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2016-06-06/socialism-is-devastating-venezuela-and-americans-dont-seem-to-notice

Just nationalized the oil industry

Ok? And they were better then.

wrong

They were the richest in south America and had way better conditions.

Okay, so could you own a privately owned business and operate this business for personal profit in Venezuela. Yes or no.

GG @Signia, you just advanced to level 7!

they socialized agriculture, redistributed all the profits, people who benefited left and the country is now in a shit fuck because of it

*nationalized

Different than socialized, incidentally. Social democrats like to pretend state ownership is collective ownership which is a funny meme

I'm a socialist, I don't want the state owning shit my dude

They ***used*** to be 'capitalist' once.
There's footage of Hugo Chaves leading people to appropriate of other people's property.

GG @Gbyws, you just advanced to level 12!

This....is such an oxymoron.

Lol, co-ops btfo

Syndicalism who?

Anarchism where?

Isn’t that unions?

That's... Yes and mostly no?

Imagine thinking worker ownership and state ownership are the same lol

Didn't realize I was talking to an ML

Fundamentally, you're conflating socialism with economic totalitarianism @Gbyws

Many socialists would argue economic totalitarianism qualifies as socialism if the state is beholden to the people

***I disagree***