Message from @Signia

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2021-01-06 01:19:25 UTC  

What do you say to people who get piercings? Do you have a big ethical breakdown over that?

2021-01-06 01:19:36 UTC  

Hellfish thats a 2017 argument

2021-01-06 01:19:42 UTC  

lel

2021-01-06 01:19:43 UTC  

Reddit moved passed that

2021-01-06 01:20:15 UTC  

You're comparing piercings to genital mutilation, besides, this debate ended hours ago.

2021-01-06 01:20:15 UTC  

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2021-01-06 01:20:25 UTC  

Didn't they already say they dislike people with piercings, I thought you two already went over that

2021-01-06 01:20:29 UTC  

Who said I would be forcing anybody to do anything? You can make incentives. I'm not completely opposed to limited markets y'know

2021-01-06 01:21:07 UTC  

The only fair is Laissez Faire

2021-01-06 01:21:41 UTC  

So let's make a system that can do that.

2021-01-06 01:21:49 UTC  

Limiting markets is limiting the potential of innovation and creation of new wealth.

There's a reason why for many centuries, people owned approximatelly less than USD$1 per hour, and then suddenly, experienced a growth-

2021-01-06 01:22:00 UTC  

So....anarchy. Laissez-Faire.

2021-01-06 01:22:07 UTC  

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2021-01-06 01:22:10 UTC  

I'm an anarchist yes

2021-01-06 01:22:14 UTC  

What does that resemble.

2021-01-06 01:22:29 UTC  

Read spinoza <:troll:692158602256973864>

2021-01-06 01:22:45 UTC  

I'm against lassez-faire *capitalism*

2021-01-06 01:23:06 UTC  

In the same way I'm against dictators being allowed to do what they want

2021-01-06 01:23:10 UTC  

How do you have. Laissez-Faire socialism?
That'll just evolve onto capitalism. Lol.

2021-01-06 01:23:19 UTC  

Market socialism does that

2021-01-06 01:23:40 UTC  

Democracy doesn't have to collapse to dictatorship, no

2021-01-06 01:24:06 UTC  

The most stable democracies are those that disperse power

2021-01-06 01:24:17 UTC  

Democracy, is simply the tyranny of the majority.

2021-01-06 01:24:23 UTC  

That's the best capitalism, little government interference in the markets

2021-01-06 01:24:25 UTC  

**No rulers.**

2021-01-06 01:25:43 UTC  

Innovation is driven by many, many things beyond market pressures. The Wright Brothers only took flight because they were promised government bounty. The Soviets were way ahead of the US for more of the Space Race. This growth came before modern capitalism, and will continue well past it.

2021-01-06 01:25:52 UTC  

Based

2021-01-06 01:26:43 UTC  

Gross and wrong but okay

2021-01-06 01:27:11 UTC  

The Wright Brothers, did so without using government money, though.
Their competitors did. And they did so because there was a...***demand***, even If forced by government.

2021-01-06 01:27:37 UTC  

Right so

2021-01-06 01:27:44 UTC  

That was government making incentive

2021-01-06 01:28:26 UTC  

This system can exist even if necessities are public goods

2021-01-06 01:29:05 UTC  

I'm not against a market for luxuries between now and when automation can provide for a post-scarcity society.

2021-01-06 01:30:19 UTC  

Just if economic governmentation must exist, which is what a business is, it ought to be made in democratic fashion

2021-01-06 01:30:33 UTC  

Post-scarcity is a fantasy

2021-01-06 01:31:04 UTC  

Perhaps, and if such then my plans for systems after a democratic market will simply have to rest

2021-01-06 01:31:16 UTC  

But I don't believe this to be meaningfully the case

2021-01-06 01:31:52 UTC  

The end goal is malleable to reality, and if impossible then other plans will be made.

2021-01-06 01:32:32 UTC  

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2021-01-06 01:34:10 UTC  

And you think anarchist capitalism would not deteriorate into neofeudalism so

2021-01-06 01:34:32 UTC  

I still. Dont understand that argument.