Message from @Gbyws
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Businesses are goverment
<:DeadInside:717442742594175017> H o w, though.
They dont enact force upon you.
And you Join It voluntarily.
A government simply establishes itself as rule, and fuck all.
Government can be voluntary you doof
Yea the bread shop owned by a 70 year old man is the government
and the moon is the sun
*a government
Not THE government
its still isn’t
"conduct the policy, actions, and affairs of (an organization or people)."
Businesses literally do this
Dont Tell me. You think private ownership upon a space, and employing voluntary employees to take functions into it = Government
They govern
Cause they own places that require people to manage
To be a government, you need....a force, to be able to coerce others.
If it makes collective decisions for others it governs. Thus is government.
these policies are largely interchangeable with the government are flat out created by them
No you can govern in a voluntary fashion
Yea good thing you signed legal papers for employment called W-4
Those people, chose to be under your command.
So is a consensus state not a goverment?
Let's say
Hypothetically
How- How is a property, a state-
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Wait are you conflating state and government?
These aren't the same
Enlighten me on what It is then.
Which one?
State or government?
Fuck it both
Government is a social hierarchy that governs. To govern is to make collective decisions for those within the hierarchy
A state is a government with the monopoly on the capacity for coercion, in the form of violence and economic coercion (indirect violence). Especially the "legitimate" usage thereof
A hierarchy is a social system in which people have differing levels of social power.
Social power being social influence, fundamentally
There ya go @Gbyws#3691
gov is like a labor union than can be manipulated by corperations
Under my definitions given, a labor union is a government