Message from @Signia
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Limiting markets is limiting the potential of innovation and creation of new wealth.
There's a reason why for many centuries, people owned approximatelly less than USD$1 per hour, and then suddenly, experienced a growth-
So....anarchy. Laissez-Faire.
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I'm an anarchist yes
What does that resemble.
Read spinoza <:troll:692158602256973864>
I'm against lassez-faire *capitalism*
In the same way I'm against dictators being allowed to do what they want
How do you have. Laissez-Faire socialism?
That'll just evolve onto capitalism. Lol.
Market socialism does that
Democracy doesn't have to collapse to dictatorship, no
The most stable democracies are those that disperse power
Democracy, is simply the tyranny of the majority.
That's the best capitalism, little government interference in the markets
**No rulers.**
Innovation is driven by many, many things beyond market pressures. The Wright Brothers only took flight because they were promised government bounty. The Soviets were way ahead of the US for more of the Space Race. This growth came before modern capitalism, and will continue well past it.
Based
Gross and wrong but okay
The Wright Brothers, did so without using government money, though.
Their competitors did. And they did so because there was a...***demand***, even If forced by government.
Right so
This system can exist even if necessities are public goods
I'm not against a market for luxuries between now and when automation can provide for a post-scarcity society.
Just if economic governmentation must exist, which is what a business is, it ought to be made in democratic fashion
Post-scarcity is a fantasy
Perhaps, and if such then my plans for systems after a democratic market will simply have to rest
But I don't believe this to be meaningfully the case
The end goal is malleable to reality, and if impossible then other plans will be made.
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And you think anarchist capitalism would not deteriorate into neofeudalism so
I still. Dont understand that argument.
Power breeds power. Capital breeds capital. Coercion and monopolize thereof, and encouraged by the way the market demands growth and the effectiveness of monopoly
Eventually a business too will attempt to make itself be the only possible option just as the state does
Monopolization. Only happens in such immediate way, through Government intervention.
Businesses are goverment
<:DeadInside:717442742594175017> H o w, though.
They dont enact force upon you.
And you Join It voluntarily.
A government simply establishes itself as rule, and fuck all.
Government can be voluntary you doof
Yea the bread shop owned by a 70 year old man is the government